[gmx-developers] FW: Gromacs quotes

[Anton Feenstra]

Is this why we used to have the 'Explicit content' on the cover of the 
manual ;-)

Don't forget the acronyms (bromacs.dat iirc); there is one I put there 
with something about Russians and opium that should probably be taken 
out too.

FWIW, 'children' refers to child processes, not living (human) beings. 
It did seem funny when I put it in so many years ago, but humour depends 
so much on context, I agree more caution is needed here.

I do think we should not get too 'politically correct' about this - just 
free speech but sensitive about other peoples sensitivities.
If we "eliminate any quotes that can be seen as objectionable" I think 
that could become way too strict.

On 15/12/12 21:53, Erik Marklund wrote:
> I concur. I can help look through the list too. I remember seeing a
> quote or two that came across as sexist and that should go.
>
> Best,
> Erik
>
> 15 dec 2012 kl. 08.45 skrev Tsjerk Wassenaar:
>
>> I second that. The criterium should be restrictive: if it can be
>> insulting to some or is of questionable taste, then it shouldn't be in
>> there. I do like the references to MD from literature, like
>> Shakespeare and this one:
>>
>> "I will for a night put on the needful restraints." Ivanhoe, Sir
>> Walter Scott
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tsjerk
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 12/14/12 4:27 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:
>>
>>         On 2012-12-14 21:55, Shirts, Michael (mrs5pt) wrote:
>>
>>             FYI, from my student.  We also have to turn these off in
>>             F at H to avoid
>>             complaints.
>>
>>             Might it be time to retire the quotes? Do we feel it has
>>             that much of a
>>             purpose?  I wonder if it's causing more trouble than it's
>>             worth . . .
>>
>>         Maybe replace them with ads for the NRA?
>>         Sorry, also bad taste.
>>
>>         We had discussion on it previously and the naysayers were less
>>         vocal than the
>>         proponents at the time.
>>
>>         Does it have a purpose? It can put a smile on someone's face.
>>
>>         Otherwise,
>>         setenv GMX_NO_QUOTES 1
>>         Or maybe we can make it a cmake option ;).
>>
>>
>>     I don't feel particularly strongly either way, but the complaint
>>     related to some inappropriate content is well taken.  I think
>>     there are some quotes that probably don't belong.  I'm not easily
>>     offended, but maybe we should make an effort to eliminate any
>>     quotes that can be seen as objectionable, as there are a few that
>>     may be seen as such due to foul language or other reasons.
>>
>>     Disabling the feature with an environment variable is fine (and
>>     documented!) but I think, at the very least, we should clean up
>>     the database, since the onus is on us, the developers, to produce
>>     a user-friendly product.  I'm a big fan of witty quips, though :)
>>      Maybe the database should simply focus on humorous quotes from
>>     the developers and other influential people?  Just a thought.
>>
>>     "If I had a dime for every time I posted a link to the wiki..."
>>     (J. Lemkul)  ;)
>>
>>     -Justin
>>
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-- 
Groetjes,

Anton
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