[gmx-developers] Umbrella code extension / flat bottom potential

Sabine Reisser sabine.reisser at kit.edu
Fri Feb 13 15:17:50 CET 2015


Hi Berk,

thank you, excellent!
When will this be available?

Cheers
Sabine


Am 13.02.2015 14:58, schrieb Berk Hess:
> Hi,
>
> Does https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/3947/ do what you want?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Berk
>
> On 2015-02-13 14:41, Sabine Reisser wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I think this topic is still interesting.
>> I have just tested Jochens code for flat-bottom position restraints, 
>> which works great, but unfortunately it's not suitable for what I need.
>> Here, you can define a layer (with normal in z-direction) with a 
>> certain thickness and invert the restraints. The problem is that you 
>> cannot define a reference position for the layer, but the reference 
>> position is always the initial geometry. That way, particles are 
>> pushed away from the layer, but the direction is not defined. So I 
>> cannot use this to bind my peptides to one leaflet of the membrane 
>> (cmp. my post "Flat bottom position restraints"  on gmx-users). Also 
>> I cannot use it to restrain distances between molecules, which I also 
>> need sometimes.
>>
>> So I'd be grateful if you could reconsider including the extension to 
>> the pull code described below.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sabine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> I guess you mean flat-bottomed position restraints.
>> I am talking about the pull code (between COM iso atoms).
>>
>> Berk
>>
>> On 02/13/2014 04:05 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:
>> >/  It's been in master branch for about a year :-)
>> />/
>> />/  Mark
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/  On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>  
>> />/  <mailto:hess at kth.se  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>>> wrote:
>> />/
>> />/      On 02/12/2014 04:55 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:
>> />/
>> />/          On 2014-02-12 15:24, Sabine Reisser wrote:
>> />/
>> />/              Hi,
>> />/
>> />/                "It seems like your potential would not need an extra
>> />/              parameter (it
>> />/              should
>> />/              equal a flat bottomed potential with lower limit 0)."
>> />/
>> />/          A flat bottom potential is already in the code and we have
>> />/          used it extensively. Jochen Hub has implemented it.
>> />/
>> />/      Not in the main distribution.
>> />/
>> />/      Cheers,
>> />/
>> />/      Berk
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/              Yes, this is exactly what I mean.
>> />/
>> />/              Thanks & cheers
>> />/              Sabine
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/              On 02/12/2014 03:08 PM, Berk Hess wrote:
>> />/
>> />/                  Hi,
>> />/
>> />/                  This indeed looks like a flat-bottomed restraint
>> />/                  potential. I had
>> />/                  proposed that addition to the pull code for 5.0 in a
>> />/                  request for
>> />/                  feedback, which I also posted to the developers list.
>> />/                  But since I didn't
>> />/                  receive any response on this point I didn't implement
>> />/                  it. Also because a
>> />/                  general flat bottomed potential needs an extra
>> />/                  (distance) parameter. It
>> />/                  seems like your potential would not need an extra
>> />/                  parameter (it should
>> />/                  equal a flat bottomed potential with lower limit 0).
>> />/                  Since it's too late
>> />/                  for 5.0, I would propose to implement the flat
>> />/                  bottomed potential for
>> />/                  5.1.
>> />/
>> />/                  Cheers,
>> />/
>> />/                  Berk
>> />/
>> />/                  On 02/12/2014 02:31 PM, Shirts, Michael (mrs5pt) wrote:
>> />/
>> />/                      Hi, Sabine-
>> />/
>> />/                      So, this looks like the distance restraint
>> />/                      potential (bond function
>> />/                      10) in
>> />/                      section 4.3.4 of the manual that matches this
>> />/                      potential function.  Right
>> />/                      now, this potential can only be applied.  However,
>> />/                      there is a planned
>> />/                      fix
>> />/                      for 5.0 that will include the ability to add all
>> />/                      bonded interactions in
>> />/                      between arbitrary atoms in the system, even if
>> />/                      they are not in the same
>> />/                      molecule.
>> />/
>> />/                      I BELIEVE there is an extension to the pull code
>> />/                      that would allow
>> />/                      general
>> />/                      bonded potentials to be used between COMs of index
>> />/                      groups as well but
>> />/                      I'm
>> />/                      not as certain about that.
>> />/
>> />/                      I think that these planned changes will capture
>> />/                      the functionality
>> />/                      that you
>> />/                      are describing.  Is that correct?
>> />/
>> />/                      Best,
>> />/
>> />/                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> />/                      Michael Shirts
>> />/                      Assistant Professor
>> />/                      Department of Chemical Engineering
>> />/                      University of Virginia
>> />/                      michael.shirts at virginia.edu  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>
>> />/                      <mailto:michael.shirts at virginia.edu  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>>
>> />/                      (434)-243-1821
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/                      On 2/12/14, 8:20 AM, "Sabine Reisser"
>> />/                      <sabine.reisser at kit.edu  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>
>> />/                      <mailto:sabine.reisser at kit.edu  <https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-developers>>> wrote:
>> />/
>> />/                          Hello,
>> />/
>> />/                          I have implemented an extension to the
>> />/                          existing umbrella code in
>> />/                          Gromacs
>> />/                          version 4.6.3. It is a semiharmonic potential
>> />/                          which sets a maximum
>> />/                          distance between two index groups. When this
>> />/                          distance is trespassed, a
>> />/                          force kicks in and bounces the pull group
>> />/                          back, when the distance is
>> />/                          below the threshold, motions are completely
>> />/                          unrestrained. I use this
>> />/                          code to simulate pores of antimicrobial
>> />/                          peptides, to keep the peptides
>> />/                          in close vicinity without actually interfering
>> />/                          with the pore formation
>> />/                          process.
>> />/                          The code can also be used to make sure several
>> />/                          peptides bind to the
>> />/                          same
>> />/                          side of a membrane or in ligand-binding
>> />/                          simulations.
>> />/                          The relevant part of the extended code is no
>> />/                          longer than 10 lines,
>> />/                          but I
>> />/                          naturally had to change other files in order
>> />/                          to read the modified input
>> />/
>> />/                      >from the mdp files, too. Affected binaries are
>> />/                      mdrun and grompp.
>> />/
>> />/                          Instead of providing this singular modified
>> />/                          Gromacs 4.6.3 as a tarball
>> />/                          for downloading, I would like to get this
>> />/                          extension into the official
>> />/                          release so that it is maintained also in
>> />/                          future releases.
>> />/
>> />/                          What is the procedure to achieve this or who
>> />/                          is the best person to
>> />/                          address?
>> />/
>> />/                          With best regards
>> />/
>> />/                          Sabine Reißer
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/                          ---------------------------------
>> />/                          Dipl. phys. Sabine Reißer
>> />/                          Theoretical Chemical Biology
>> />/                          Institute for Physical Chemistry
>> />/                          Karlsruhe Institute for Technology (KIT)
>> />/                          Germany
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