[gmx-developers] Drift in Conserved-Energy with Nose-Hoover thermostat
David van der Spoel
spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Thu Jul 16 00:12:25 CEST 2015
On 15/07/15 19:01, Mark Abraham wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, that's a problem long fixed, and several orders of magnitude larger.
>
We noted the same problem a while back and in that case it was getting
deteriorated by too short time steps, since the update of the position
introduces loss of precision in single precision. What time step are you
using?
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM Bernhard <b.reuter at uni-kassel.de
> <mailto:b.reuter at uni-kassel.de>> wrote:
>
> I remember some research article http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.2431176 (or
> https://www.deshawresearch.com/publications/A%20common,%20avoidable%20source%20of%20error%20in%20molecular%20dynamics%20integrators.pdf)
> from 2006 which showed a comparable linear energy drift for single
> precision GROMACS 3.3.1 due to not optimal calculation of the velocity
> of constrained particels.
> But this issue should be solved in version 4.6.7?
>
> Best,
> Bernhard
>
> Am 15/07/15 um 18:04 schrieb Bernhard:
> > Indeed seems so... unfortunately I have no clue about the cause.
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> > Am 15/07/15 um 17:57 schrieb Shirts, Michael R. (mrs5pt):
> >>> There I also got a linear drift (but smaller) of 0.78 kJ/mol/ps
> >>> (3.436*10^-5 kJ/mol/ps per atom).
> >>> For comparison reasons I also did a NVT Nose-Hoover Simulation with
> >>> manually set rlist=1.012nm: There I got a comparable linear
> drift of
> >>> 0.67
> >>> kJ/mol/ps (2.94*10^-5 kJ/mol/ps per atom). So no differences
> between
> >>> NVE
> >>> and NVT so far in my opinion...
> >>
> >> So sounds like the conserved quantity drift with NVT is not due to
> >> NH, but
> >> due to something else with the underlying dynamics.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Michael Shirts
> >> Associate Professor
> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >> University of Virginia
> >> michael.shirts at virginia.edu <mailto:michael.shirts at virginia.edu>
> >> (434) 243-1821
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/15/15, 11:41 AM, "Bernhard" <b.reuter at uni-kassel.de
> <mailto:b.reuter at uni-kassel.de>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I mean a drift of the total energy in NVE - while with
> Nose-Hoover the
> >>> drift is in the Conserved-Energy quantity of g_energy (the
> total energy
> >>> shows no drift with Noose-Hoover...).
> >>>
> >>> Am 15/07/15 um 17:38 schrieb Bernhard:
> >>>> I also did a NVE simulation with the same parameters, system and
> >>>> starting conditions but with manually set rlist=1.012nm (since
> >>>> verlet-buffer-drift doesnt work in NVE):
> >>>> There I also got a linear drift (but smaller) of 0.78 kJ/mol/ps
> >>>> (3.436*10^-5 kJ/mol/ps per atom).
> >>>> For comparison reasons I also did a NVT Nose-Hoover Simulation
> with
> >>>> manually set rlist=1.012nm:
> >>>> There I got a comparable linear drift of 0.67 kJ/mol/ps
> (2.94*10^-5
> >>>> kJ/mol/ps per atom).
> >>>> So no differences between NVE and NVT so far in my opinion...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Bernhard
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 15/07/15 um 17:10 schrieb Shirts, Michael R. (mrs5pt):
> >>>>> The conserved quantity in nose-hoover is not quite as good as the
> >>>>> conserved energy, which should have no drift at all. For NH, the
> >>>>> conserved quantity should drift as a random Gaussian process with
> >>>>> mean
> >>>>> zero (i.e. go with sqrt(N)). It shouldn't be drifting linearly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would check to see if your system conserved energy when run
> with
> >>>>> NVE
> >>>>> (use the endpoint of the NPT simulation). It's easier to
> diagnose
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> problems with an NVE simulation, which should have virtually no
> >>>>> drift, vs
> >>>>> a NVT simulation, which has random noise drift. Odds are, if
> >>>>> there is
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> problem with the NVT simulation, it will also show up in the NVE
> >>>>> simulation if only the thermostat is removed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, consider looking at
> >>>>> http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct300688p
> >>>>> for tests of whether the ensemble generated is correct.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> Michael Shirts
> >>>>> Associate Professor
> >>>>> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >>>>> University of Virginia
> >>>>> michael.shirts at virginia.edu <mailto:michael.shirts at virginia.edu>
> >>>>> (434) 243-1821
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/15/15, 10:58 AM, "Bernhard" <b.reuter at uni-kassel.de
> <mailto:b.reuter at uni-kassel.de>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Gromacs Users and Developers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a problem regarding energy conservation in my 10ns NVT
> >>>>>> protein+water+ions (22765 atoms) production (minimization and
> >>>>>> equilibration for more than 15ns was carried out in NPT before)
> >>>>>> simulations using a Nose-Hoover thermostat (tau=2.5ps).
> >>>>>> On first glance everything looks fine - the potential,
> kinetic and
> >>>>>> total
> >>>>>> energy are nearly perfectly constant (with normal
> fluctuations) -
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> when I checked the "Conserved-Energy" quantity that g_energy
> >>>>>> outputs I
> >>>>>> had to recognize a significant (nearly perfectly) linear
> downward
> >>>>>> drift
> >>>>>> of this "to-be-conserved" quantity of around 1.7 kJ/mol/ps
> >>>>>> (7.48*10^-5
> >>>>>> kJ/mol/ps per atom).
> >>>>>> This appears somehow disturbing to me since I would expect
> that this
> >>>>>> Conserved-Energy is the conserved energy of the extended
> Nose-Hoover
> >>>>>> Hamiltonian - which should by definition be conserved.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If it would be a drift caused by normal round-off error due to
> >>>>>> single
> >>>>>> precision I would expect it to grow with Sqrt(N) and not with N
> >>>>>> (linear)
> >>>>>> (N=number of steps).
> >>>>>> So I would like to know if this is a normal behaviour and
> also what
> >>>>>> could cause this (buffer size, precision, constraints etc)?
> >>>>>> Also I would like to know, if I am correct with my guess
> that the
> >>>>>> "Conserved-Energy" quantity is in this case the energy of the
> >>>>>> extended
> >>>>>> Nose-Hoover Hamiltonian?
> >>>>>> The .mdp file is atatched (don't be confused about rlist=1 -
> >>>>>> since Im
> >>>>>> using the Verlet-scheme the verlet-buffer-drift option
> should be by
> >>>>>> default active and determine the rlist value (Verlet
> buffer-size)
> >>>>>> automatically).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> Bernhard
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> integrator = md ; leap-frog integrator
> >>>>>> nsteps = 10000000 ; 10000 ps = 10 ns
> >>>>>> dt = 0.001 ; 1 fs
> >>>>>> ; Output control
> >>>>>> nstxout = 5000 ; save coordinates every ps
> >>>>>> nstvout = 5000 ; save velocities every ps
> >>>>>> nstxtcout = 1000 ; xtc compressed trajectory output
> >>>>>> every ps
> >>>>>> nstenergy = 1000 ; save energies every ps
> >>>>>> nstlog = 5000 ; update log file every ps
> >>>>>> ; Bond parameters
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> >>>>>> constraint_algorithm = lincs ; holonomic constraints
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> >>>>>> lincs_iter = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
> >>>>>> lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
> >>>>>> ; Neighborsearching
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> >>>>>> group-scheme (no charge-groups used)
> >>>>>> ns_type = grid ; search neighboring grid cells
> >>>>>> nstlist = 10 ; 10 fs
> >>>>>> rlist = 1.0 ; short-range neighborlist cutoff
> (in nm)
> >>>>>> rcoulomb = 1.0 ; short-range electrostatic cutoff
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> >>>>>> pme_order = 4 ; cubic interpolation
> >>>>>> fourierspacing = 0.12 ; grid spacing for FFT
> >>>>>> ; Temperature coupling is on
> >>>>>> tcoupl = nose-hoover ; modified Berendsen thermostat
> >>>>>> tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein ; two coupling
> groups - more
> >>>>>> accurate
> >>>>>> tau_t = 2.5 2.5 ; time constant, in ps
> >>>>>> ref_t = 300 300 ; reference temperature, one
> for each
> >>>>>> group, in K
> >>>>>> ; Pressure coupling is off
> >>>>>> pcoupl = no ; no pressure coupling in NVT
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