[gmx-users] Re: Lipid bilayer parameters (David)

David spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Mon Jul 25 08:47:29 CEST 2005


On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 16:19 -0400, Jim Kress wrote:
> David,
> 
> Is this also bad:
> 
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL1 - HW3)
> Warning: atom names in topol.top and conf.gro don't match (OL2 - HW4)
> (more than 20 non-matching atom names)
> WARNING 1 [file "topol.top", line 423]:
>   21242 non-matching atom names
>   atom names from topol.top will be used
>   atom names from conf.gro will be ingnored
> 
> ??  I'm doing TIP5P water.  There is an inconsistency between the gromacs
> supplied files, however.  In ffoplsaa.rtp, TIP5P negative point charges are
> called HW3 and HW4 while in tip5p.itp they are called OL1 and OL2,
> respectively.
> 
> Is that the cause of the warning messages and can they be safely ignored?
This is not a problem. After a short run and/or minimization they will
be named properly.



> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
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> >    1. Lipid bilayer parameters (naga raju)
> >    2. polymer NVT (javier sacristan)
> >    3. Re: Lipid bilayer parameters (David)
> >    4. Re: Lipid bilayer parameters (Tsjerk Wassenaar)
> > 
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: naga raju <nagaraju_cy at yahoo.co.in>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] Lipid bilayer parameters
> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
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> > Dear gmx-users,
> >                 I built a lipid bilayer (72 lipid molecules 
> > and 2376 water molecules) by taking one lipid molecule from 
> > the dppc.pdb file in website:
> > http://moose.bio.ucalgary.ca/index.php?page=Downloads
> >  I downloaded dppc.itp and lipid.itp files from the above 
> > link. when i used the grompp command, it shows the following error. 
> > 
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C1 - C2)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C2 - N4)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (N4 - C5)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C5 - C6)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C6 - O7)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O7 - P8)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (P8 - O9)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O9 - O10)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O10 - O11)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O11 - C12)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C12 - C13)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C13 - O14)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O14 - C15)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C15 - O16)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (O16 - C17)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C17 - C18)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C18 - C19)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C19 - C20)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C20 - C21)
> > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't match (C21 
> > - C22) (more than 20 non-matching atom names) WARNING 1 [file 
> > "dppc.top", line 26]:
> >   9096 non-matching atom names
> >   atom names from dppc.top will be used
> >   atom names from bbww.pdb will be ingnored
> >  
> > double-checking input for internal consistency...
> > ERROR: One of the box vectors is shorter than twice the 
> > cut-off length. Increase the box size or decrease rlist.
> > There was 1 warning
> > 
> > 
> > How can be the problem solved?
> > Here i gave my dppc.top file:
> > 
> > #include "ffgmx.itp"
> > #include "lipid.itp"
> > #include "dppc.itp"
> > #include "alm.itp"
> > #include "ions.itp"
> > 
> > #ifdef FLEX_SPC
> > #include "flexspc.itp"
> > #else
> > #include "spc.itp"
> > #endif
> > 
> > [ system ]
> > ; name
> > Alm on surf + relaxed popc
> > 
> > [ molecules ]
> > ; name	number
> > DPPC    72
> > SOL     2376
> > 
> > 
> >                  Thank you
> >                                   nagaraju
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:39:52 -0600
> > From: "javier sacristan" <jus29 at psu.edu>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] polymer NVT
> > To: <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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> > 
> > Thank you David I will try to do NPT with 100 bars and after 
> > with 1 bar.....
> > 
> > I really appreciate your help.
> > 
> > Last question I am doing the sim. with united atom model so, 
> > I think that 
> > i do not need to use constraints, it is just a linear 
> > polymer. (Gromacs
> > 3.2.1)
> > 
> > Thanks again
> >  
> > Javier
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:10:31 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: David van der Spoel <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] polymer NVT
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> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, javier wrote:
> > 
> > >Dear Gromacssss
> > >
> > > My system consist of 1 polymer chain, and I need to do NVT 
> > simulations, so
> > >I need to fix the box size according to  my polymer density.
> > > But I really do not understand editconf?
> > >
> > >My edit conf is: ediconf -bt cubic -f file.gro -o out.gro -d 
> > 0.5 -center
> > >
> > >But in this way I do not get the right density, so I have tried:
> > >
> > >
> > >ediconf -bt cubic -f file.gro -o out.gro -d 0.5 -density 1010
> > >
> > >but the resulting  box vector lengths are a=4 b=7 and c=0.3. 
> >  Therefore I
> > >only can use very small cutoffs due to the small c value.
> > >
> > >And my polymer chain does not look like a Gaussian chain, 
> > and it is outside
> > >of the cell.
> > >
> > >So, do you have some idea?
> > 
> > make a box of 7 7 7 that fits the chain
> > do a simulation with pressure coupling to 100 bar and watch the box 
> > contract. then do sim with pressure 1 bar and check the final 
> > density. If 
> > it is not right check your force field.
> > 
> > you need pbc = full for this kind of simulation (and 
> > constraint algorihtm 
> > LINCS with CVS code or no constraints with 3.2.1).
> > 
> > >
> > >. 
> > >
> > >THANK YOU!!!!
> > >
> > >Javier 
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:52:11 +0200
> > From: David <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Lipid bilayer parameters
> > To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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> > On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 05:20 -0700, naga raju wrote:
> > > Dear gmx-users,
> > >                 I built a lipid bilayer (72 lipid
> > > molecules and 2376 water molecules) by taking one
> > > lipid molecule from the dppc.pdb file in website:
> > > http://moose.bio.ucalgary.ca/index.php?page=Downloads
> > >  I downloaded dppc.itp and lipid.itp files from the
> > > above link. when i used the grompp command, it shows
> > > the following error. 
> > > 
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C1 - C2)
> > this is bad.
> > fix your top or pdb file such that they match.
> > 
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C2 - N4)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (N4 - C5)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C5 - C6)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C6 - O7)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O7 - P8)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (P8 - O9)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O9 - O10)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O10 - O11)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O11 - C12)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C12 - C13)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C13 - O14)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O14 - C15)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C15 - O16)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (O16 - C17)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C17 - C18)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C18 - C19)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C19 - C20)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C20 - C21)
> > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > match (C21 - C22)
> > > (more than 20 non-matching atom names)
> > > WARNING 1 [file "dppc.top", line 26]:
> > >   9096 non-matching atom names
> > >   atom names from dppc.top will be used
> > >   atom names from bbww.pdb will be ingnored
> > >  
> > > double-checking input for internal consistency...
> > > ERROR: One of the box vectors is shorter than twice
> > > the cut-off length. Increase the box size or decrease
> > > rlist.
> > > There was 1 warning
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How can be the problem solved?
> > > Here i gave my dppc.top file:
> > > 
> > > #include "ffgmx.itp"
> > > #include "lipid.itp"
> > > #include "dppc.itp"
> > > #include "alm.itp"
> > > #include "ions.itp"
> > > 
> > > #ifdef FLEX_SPC
> > > #include "flexspc.itp"
> > > #else
> > > #include "spc.itp"
> > > #endif
> > > 
> > > [ system ]
> > > ; name
> > > Alm on surf + relaxed popc
> > > 
> > > [ molecules ]
> > > ; name	number
> > > DPPC    72
> > > SOL     2376
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                  Thank you
> > >                                   nagaraju
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
> > Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
> > Husargatan 3, Box 596,          75124 Uppsala, Sweden
> > phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:21:04 +0200
> > From: Tsjerk Wassenaar <tsjerkw at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Lipid bilayer parameters
> > To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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> > 
> > Hi Nagaraju,
> > 
> > It looks like you miss the first atom in the pdb file (which should be
> > a C1). In addition, check your box, since there's something wrong with
> > that too, according to the grompp output.
> > 
> > Hope it helps,
> > 
> > Tsjerk
> > 
> > On 7/23/05, David <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 05:20 -0700, naga raju wrote:
> > > > Dear gmx-users,
> > > >                 I built a lipid bilayer (72 lipid
> > > > molecules and 2376 water molecules) by taking one
> > > > lipid molecule from the dppc.pdb file in website:
> > > > http://moose.bio.ucalgary.ca/index.php?page=Downloads
> > > >  I downloaded dppc.itp and lipid.itp files from the
> > > > above link. when i used the grompp command, it shows
> > > > the following error.
> > > >
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C1 - C2)
> > > this is bad.
> > > fix your top or pdb file such that they match.
> > > 
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C2 - N4)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (N4 - C5)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C5 - C6)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C6 - O7)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O7 - P8)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (P8 - O9)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O9 - O10)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O10 - O11)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O11 - C12)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C12 - C13)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C13 - O14)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O14 - C15)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C15 - O16)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (O16 - C17)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C17 - C18)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C18 - C19)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C19 - C20)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C20 - C21)
> > > > Warning: atom names in dppc.top and bbww.pdb don't
> > > > match (C21 - C22)
> > > > (more than 20 non-matching atom names)
> > > > WARNING 1 [file "dppc.top", line 26]:
> > > >   9096 non-matching atom names
> > > >   atom names from dppc.top will be used
> > > >   atom names from bbww.pdb will be ingnored
> > > >
> > > > double-checking input for internal consistency...
> > > > ERROR: One of the box vectors is shorter than twice
> > > > the cut-off length. Increase the box size or decrease
> > > > rlist.
> > > > There was 1 warning
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How can be the problem solved?
> > > > Here i gave my dppc.top file:
> > > >
> > > > #include "ffgmx.itp"
> > > > #include "lipid.itp"
> > > > #include "dppc.itp"
> > > > #include "alm.itp"
> > > > #include "ions.itp"
> > > >
> > > > #ifdef FLEX_SPC
> > > > #include "flexspc.itp"
> > > > #else
> > > > #include "spc.itp"
> > > > #endif
> > > >
> > > > [ system ]
> > > > ; name
> > > > Alm on surf + relaxed popc
> > > >
> > > > [ molecules ]
> > > > ; name        number
> > > > DPPC    72
> > > > SOL     2376
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                  Thank you
> > > >                                   nagaraju
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > 
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > __________
> > > David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
> > > Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
> > > Husargatan 3, Box 596,          75124 Uppsala, Sweden
> > > phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
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David.
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David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,          75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se    spoel at gromacs.org   http://xray.bmc.uu.se/~spoel
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