[gmx-users] Re: Molecular volume

David Mobley dmobley at gmail.com
Tue Nov 7 01:02:10 CET 2006


Mohan,

This following excerpt was on the gmx-revision list in July. You
probably need the CVS version of 3.3 to take advantage of this option:
I've used it myself, with that version. Seems to work fine.

>Added a new option to g_sas in order to compute the volume and density
>of a sample. The volume was already computed by the double-cube lattice
>method but we never used the result. Option is -tv.
>--
>David.
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On 11/6/06, Mohan Boggara <mohanbabu.boggara at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> Thanks for you reply, g_sas gives solvent accesible surface area but not the
> volume. In any case, that might be of some help.
> Thanks
> Mohan
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> >    1. Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP (Joern Lenz)
> >    2. Re: Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP
> >       (David van der Spoel)
> >    3. Smooth surface (Alexei Krukau)
> >    4. Re: Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP (Joern Lenz)
> >    5. Re: Fw: gmx-3.3.1_cpmd-3.11.1 with mpirun (Pradip K Biswas)
> >    6. Re: (dH/dl) calculation (David Mobley)
> >    7. Molecular volume (Mohan Boggara)
> >    8. Re: Molecular volume (David Mobley)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:03:33 +0100
> > From: Joern Lenz < JLenz at zbh.uni-hamburg.de>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP
> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> > Message-ID: <
> 200611061203.33366.JLenz at zbh.uni-hamburg.de>
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> > dear gromacs users,
> >
> > i am performing a simulation of a system of a protein together with a DNA
> > using the amber03 forcefield which i loaded down from
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/AMBER.html.
> > I converted all LYS residues in my pdb file into LYP and all HIS into HIP
> > (please correct me if you think that this does not make sense).
> > Does anyone know a script or program which automatically converts pdb
> files
> > into amber pdb files so that i can use the amber03 FF without changing
> atoms
> > here and there ?
> >
> > QUESTION:
> > When i start pdb2gmx there always occurs the same error:
> > "Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP"
> > I cannot recognize where this error comes from and so i am not able to fix
> > this error.
> > Has anyone got an idea ?
> > Thanks a lot and have a nice day using gromacs
> > greeting
> > joern
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:39:23 +0100
> > From: David van der Spoel < spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue
> >         TRP
> > To: Discussion list for GROMACS users < gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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> > Joern Lenz wrote:
> > > dear gromacs users,
> > >
> > > i am performing a simulation of a system of a protein together with a
> DNA
> > > using the amber03 forcefield which i loaded down from
> > > http://folding.stanford.edu/AMBER.html.
> > > I converted all LYS residues in my pdb file into LYP and all HIS into
> HIP
> > > (please correct me if you think that this does not make sense).
> > > Does anyone know a script or program which automatically converts pdb
> files
> > > into amber pdb files so that i can use the amber03 FF without changing
> atoms
> > > here and there ?
> > >
> > > QUESTION:
> > > When i start pdb2gmx there always occurs the same error:
> > > "Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP"
> > > I cannot recognize where this error comes from and so i am not able to
> fix
> > > this error.
> > > Has anyone got an idea ?
> >
> > check that the columns in your pdb file are correct.
> > search for q2 in your pdb file.
> >
> > > Thanks a lot and have a nice day using gromacs
> > > greeting
> > > joern
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> > --
> > David.
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________
> > David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
> > Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:37:42 +0200
> > From: Alexei Krukau
> <alex at heineken.chemie.uni-dortmund.de>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] Smooth surface
> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
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> > Dear Gromacs users,
> > I would like to ask, if there is a possibility to create a smooth
> > (unstructured) hydrophobic or hydrophilic wall in Gromacs?
> > --
> > Alex Krukau
> > Physical Chemistry II a
> > University of Dortmund
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:15:56 +0100
> > From: Joern Lenz <JLenz at zbh.uni-hamburg.de>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue
> >         TRP
> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> > Message-ID: <200611061515.56099.JLenz at zbh.uni-hamburg.de>
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> > >>Joern Lenz wrote:
> >
> > >>dear gromacs users,
> >
> >
> > >>i am performing a simulation of a system of a protein together with a
> DNA
> > >>using the amber03 forcefield which i loaded down from
> > >>http://folding.stanford.edu/AMBER.html. I converted all
> LYS residues in my
> > >>pdb file into LYP and all HIS into HIP (please correct me if you think
> that
> > >>this does not make sense). Does anyone know a script or program which
> > >>automatically converts pdb files into amber pdb files so that i can use
> the
> > >>amber03 FF without changing atoms here and there ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>QUESTION: When i start pdb2gmx there always occurs the same error:
> > >>"Atom q2 not found in rtp database in residue TRP"
> > >>
> > >>I cannot recognize where this error comes from and so i am not able to
> fix
> > >>this error. Has anyone got an idea ?
> >
> > >check that the columns in your pdb file are correct.
> > >search for q2 in your pdb file.
> >
> > I checked both suggestions but the error is still there.
> > what can i further do to run pdb2gmx correctly ?
> > thnaks a lot for ideas.
> > Joern
> >
> > >>Thanks a lot and have a nice day using gromacs
> > >>
> > >>greetings joern
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> > >--
> > >David.
> >
> >________________________________________________________________________
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:14:11 -0500
> > From: Pradip K Biswas <p.biswas at csuohio.edu>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Fw: gmx-3.3.1_cpmd-3.11.1 with mpirun
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:19:05 -0800
> > From: "David Mobley" <dmobley at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] (dH/dl) calculation
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> > Mauricio,
> >
> > I'm somewhat confused by your question and notation. However, I think
> > the basic answer is something like this: In molecular dynamics, you
> > know the Hamiltonian from which you are sampling; call it H(x,p, l),
> > where x denotes all of the positions, p the momentums, and l lambda.
> > This, of course, is closely linked to the potential energy. Anyway, at
> > any snapshot, you can simply take the derivative dH(x,p,l)/dl, and you
> > have dH/dl at that snapshot. This is usually straightforward since you
> > know the dependence of all of the terms in your Hamiltonian on lambda,
> > so you actually have the functional form for dH/dl as well -- so it
> > just involves taking the appropriate combination of positions,
> > momentums, etc. This is of course all handled internally by the code.
> > <dH/dl>, then, is just the time-average of dH/dl, which can be
> > evaluated every step by the code.
> >
> > I am not sure if that's helpful at all, as I'm not entirely sure what
> > problem you're having. After all, whenever you do TI calculations in
> > GROMACS, the code gives you back dG/dl (or dH/dl, or dA/dl) for every
> > snapshot in an xvg output file. Are you just confused about how the
> > code gets this (I think I just answered that above), or are you trying
> > to figure out how to use it? If you're confused about how to use it,
> > try to ask a question that relates to the specific issue you're
> > confused about.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > David Mobley
> > UCSF
> >
> >
> > On 11/5/06, Mauricio Sica <msica at unq.edu.ar > wrote:
> > > Dear experts
> > >
> > > I am doing FEP (thermodynamic integration method) simulations.
> > > I have a questions about <dH/dl> calculation in GROMACS.
> > > Take in mind equation 3.77 from the GROMACS 3.3 manual.
> > > There, dA/dl is calculated as
> > >
> > > dA/dl = SS{ (dH/dl) exp()dp dq } / SS{ exp()dp dq = <dA/dl>NVT;l }
> > >
> > > where SS are doble integrals (sorry for the notation).
> > >
> > > My question is: how is (dH/dl) (in the middel-term of the equation)
> > > calculated?
> > > My idea is that the difference V(L=1)-V(L=0) is calculated for every
> time
> > > step (irrespective of the lambda value of the simulation) and <dG/dl> is
> > > the time average of that difference.
> > >
> > > <dG/dl> = < V(L=1)(i)-V(L=0)(i)/1 >
> > >
> > > Is this correct?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:37:58 -0600
> > From: "Mohan Boggara" < mohanbabu.boggara at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [gmx-users] Molecular volume
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> > Dear users,
> > Is there a way to calculate molecular volume of small solutes that we use
> in
> > simulations?
> >
> > Mohan
> >
> > --
> > Mohan Boggara
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> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:58:34 -0800
> > From: "David Mobley" <dmobley at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Molecular volume
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> >
> > I think in 3.3, there was a new option added to g_sas that allows you
> > to calculate the solvent accessible volume, which may be what you
> > want. Try searching the list.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/06, Mohan Boggara <mohanbabu.boggara at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear users,
> > > Is there a way to calculate molecular volume of small solutes that we
> use in
> > > simulations?
> > >
> > > Mohan
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mohan Boggara
> > > Graduate Research Assistant
> > > Dept of Chemical Engineering
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