[gmx-users] center of mass removal

Xavier Periole X.Periole at rug.nl
Thu Dec 27 12:18:18 CET 2007


On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:55:03 +0100
  "Tsjerk Wassenaar" <tsjerkw at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just to add my 5 cEUR. The flying ice cube will be avoided using linear comm
> removal on the whole system (default), which will retain diffusion of the
> peptide in the solvent. 

Thanks Tsjerk for clarifying my quickanddurty statement. Removing the COM
motion of the whole system is fine, my concern was to do it separately on
the solvent and peptide.

> The peaks you see in the comm I guess are due to the
> update of the neighbour list (every ten steps?). This will change the system
> a bit more than usually, causing the peptide to suddenly see different
> interacting particles.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tsjerk
> 
> On 12/26/07, Xavier Periole <X.Periole at rug.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:01:22 +0100
>>   David van der Spoel <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se> wrote:
>> > Li Qiang wrote:
>> >> hi Christian,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the reply. I have plotted the the rate of center of mass
>> >> motion and found there are peaks with certain time interval. I think
>> >> that is not only a visual problem but like fly ice cube problem(not
>> >> sure). As a comparison, when a large protein is simulated, the
>> >> rate(velocity) of COM is "constant".
>> >>
>>
>> I do not think you want to remove the center of mass motion of your
>> peptide, and certainly not of your solvent. The diffusion of the peptide
>> is certainly something you should expect. If it looks like a flying
>> ice cube that means that there are some parameters that you should
>> modify in your mdp file.
>>
>> >> Yes. the default way GROMACS do is system COM removal at each step.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> how does the program remove this center of mass motion?
>> >>
>> > By summing the COM momentum and subtracting it from all atoms.
>> >
>> > --
>> > David van der Spoel, Ph.D.
>> > Molec. Biophys. group, Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
>> > Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:        +46184714205. Fax:
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