[gmx-users] position restraints

gadies at fh.huji.ac.il gadies at fh.huji.ac.il
Thu Apr 24 14:49:56 CEST 2008


Hi,

I minimized without restraints, could that be the problem?
After the minimization I got a Potential Energy  = -6.1434351e+02.

Gadi


Quoting "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>:

> Quoting gadies at fh.huji.ac.il:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The full mdrun output when the simulation blows up is:
>>
>> Step 0, time 0 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
>> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
>> max inf (between atoms 6 and 7) rms inf
>> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>>           .
>>           .
>>           .
>> Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1 and 6 at distance
>> 324490777485109120.000 which is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
>
> Basic information about this type of error can be found here (as   
> well as several
> hundred posts in the list archive):
>
> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#LINCS_warnings
>
> How did you do your minimization, with or without restraints?  Did   
> it converge
> to an acceptable potential energy?
>
> -Justin
>
>>
>> Thanks Gadi
>>
>> Quoting "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>:
>>
>> >
>> > Did your minimization converge to a nice, negative potential energy?
>> >   Also, what
>> > is the full mdrun output when the simulation blows up?  You've
>> > quoted the last
>> > bit, but it would be more informative to see the whole output, or at least
>> a
>> > description of it (i.e., LINCS warnings).
>> >
>> > -Justin
>> >
>> > Quoting gadies at fh.huji.ac.il:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I tried using no temperature coupling and no constraints, that did not
>> help.
>> >> If I run the simulation without the position restraints it works OK.
>> >> Could there by something wrong with the posre file (I'll attach it at
>> >> the end of the email).
>> >> I want one of the atoms in the lipid to stay in one place and the rest
>> >> to wiggle around it. Is there any other way to do that which is not
>> >> position restraints.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Gadi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [ position_restraints ]
>> >> ; atom  type      fx      fy      fz
>> >>       1     1  0  0  0
>> >>       2     1  0  0  0
>> >>       3     1  0  0  0
>> >>       4     1  0  0  0
>> >>       5     1  0  0  0
>> >>       6     1  0  0  0
>> >>       7     1  0  0  0
>> >>       8     1  1000.0  1000.0  1000.0
>> >>       9     1  0  0  0
>> >>      10     1  0  0  0
>> >>      11     1  0  0  0
>> >>      12     1  0  0  0
>> >>      13     1  0  0  0
>> >>      14     1  0  0  0
>> >>      15     1  0  0  0
>> >>      16     1  0  0  0
>> >>      17     1  0  0  0
>> >>      18     1  0  0  0
>> >>      19     1  0  0  0
>> >>      20     1  0  0  0
>> >>      21     1  0  0  0
>> >>      22     1  0  0  0
>> >>      23     1  0  0  0
>> >>      24     1  0  0  0
>> >>      25     1  0  0  0
>> >>      26     1  0  0  0
>> >>      27     1  0  0  0
>> >>      28     1  0  0  0
>> >>      29     1  0  0  0
>> >>      30     1  0  0  0
>> >>      31     1  0  0  0
>> >>      32     1  0  0  0
>> >>      33     1  0  0  0
>> >>      34     1  0  0  0
>> >>      35     1  0  0  0
>> >>      36     1  0  0  0
>> >>      37     1  0  0  0
>> >>      38     1  0  0  0
>> >>      39     1  0  0  0
>> >>      40     1  0  0  0
>> >>      41     1  0  0  0
>> >>      42     1  0  0  0
>> >>      43     1  0  0  0
>> >>      44     1  0  0  0
>> >>      45     1  0  0  0
>> >>      46     1  0  0  0
>> >>      47     1  0  0  0
>> >>      48     1  0  0  0
>> >>      49     1  0  0  0
>> >>      50     1  0  0  0
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>:
>> >>
>> >> > gadies at fh.huji.ac.il wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Please generate replies to the mailing list sensibly. It's very hard to
>> >> > work out who you are quoting where in this email. It'd be easy just to
>> >> > ignore it, and that's the last thing you should want.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm trying to run a simulation with one lipid molecule in a fixed
>> >> >> simulation box without pbc.
>> >> >> I set position restraints on one of the atoms and I seem to keep on
>> >> >> getting the following error:
>> >> >
>> >> > Why do you want MD of a single lipid and a position restraint on one
>> >> > atom? If you just want to see a lipid wiggle around, then don't create
>> >> > more numerical complexity.
>> >> >
>> >> >> The lipid is DPPC.The .itp file I got from a coworker that used it
>> >> >> before for membrane MD simulations.
>> >> >> To minimize the system I used steepest descent with the following
>> >> >> parameters:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well if your grompp and mdrun completed successfully and without
>> >> > warnings then you've probably got an OK topology and structure.
>> >> >
>> >> > The combination of all bond constraints, a single lipid in vacuo,
>> >> > temperature coupling and a single position restraint sounds like a
>> >> > recipe for a numerical disaster, i.e. blowing up. Try with fewer of
>> >> > those things applied, or get a more physically-reasonable system, like
>> >> > a whole membrane.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mark
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