[gmx-users] Order parameters of lipid

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Fri Aug 1 12:19:33 CEST 2008



minnale wrote:
>  
> 
> Thanks to Justin for his suggestion
> I tried the way mentioned in http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/make_ndx. 
> I made index file with seperate groups and feed to g_order command
> g_order -f .xtc -s .tpr -od scd.xvg -o ord -n .ndx
> Group    0 (        C34) has  128 elements
> Group    1 (        C36) has  128 elements
> Group    2 (        C37) has  128 elements
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> . and so on till Group    15 (        C50) has  128 elements
> 
> here I am bit confused which group to select , and i selected 1 group?
> Is it correct??
> Any make me clear about this problem
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 

Which version of Gromacs are you using?  I recall some weird behavior from 
version 3.3.1(?) that I could never get around.  Version 3.3, for example, 
automatically recognizes all the groups in the index file and calculates the 
order parameters along the chain.

I don't know if 3.3.1(?) allows you to select multiple groups, but that's what 
you'd be after - all the groups in the index should be part of the analysis.

-Justin

> 
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 Justin A.Lemkul wrote :
>  >Read about how to create the appropriate index file here:
>  >
>  >http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/make_ndx
>  >
>  >There are also several posts in the list archive on how to create the 
> index file correctly.
>  >
>  >-Justin
>  >
>  >minnale wrote:
>  >>  Thanks Justin for your prompt reply with better suggestion
>  >>I have done like this
>  >>1.For index file
>  >>  Selected  > a C34
>  >>  3 34 :128 elements
>  >>  then
>  >>  > a C36
>  >>  4 36 : 128 elements......
>  >>  till C50( only C atoms)
>  >>so
>  >>index file contain
>  >>  [C34]
>  >>  atoms
>  >>  [36]
>  >>  atoms...[C50]
>  >>
>  >>2. then I have typed command like this
>  >>  g_order -f .xtc -s .tpr -o ord.xvg -od scd.xvg -n .ndx
>  >>  asked to select group
>  >>Group    0 (  System) has 14036 elements
>  >>Group    1 (  POPC) has  6656 elements
>  >>Group    2 (    SOL) has  7380 elements
>  >>Group    3 (    C34) has  128 elements
>  >>Group    4 (    C36) has  128 elements
>  >>.
>  >>.
>  >>.
>  >>Group    18 (      C50) has  128 elements
>  >>
>  >>Group  Select a group: 3
>  >>Selected 3: 'C34'
>  >>Reading frame    0 time    0.000 Back Off! I just backed up 
> sg-ang.xvg to ./#sg-ang.xvg.1#
>  >>
>  >>Back Off! I just backed up sk-dist.xvg to ./#sk-dist.xvg.1#
>  >>Last frame      25000 time 5000.000
>  >>gcq#189: "Stay Tuned, We'll Be Right Back" (CNN)
>  >>have I done is correct?
>  >>
>  >>I have doubt that the mentioned -o and -od flags didnt generate .xvg 
> file but without mentioning -Sk and -Sg flags .xvg got generated?
>  >>Can you clear this problem.
>  >>Thanks in advance.                      On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 Justin 
> A.Lemkul wrote :
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >minnale wrote:
>  >>  >>  I want to calculate order parameters of palmitoyl and oleyl 
> chains of POPC which ran it for 5ns, so I have done below mentioned steps.
>  >>  >>1. First I tried for Palmitoyl, so I made .ndx file by using 
> make_ndx command and selected a C34|a 035|a C36.....a C50.
>  >>  >>In index file the palmitoyl chain selected like this 
> C34_O35_C36......C50
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  >You need the index groups to specify each atom separately, and 
> only include carbon atoms.  Your index group will be something like:
>  >>  >
>  >>  >[ C34 ]
>  >>  >(atoms)
>  >>  >[ C36 ]
>  >>  >(atoms)
>  >>  >etc.
>  >>  >[ C50 ]
>  >>  >
>  >>  >>2. This index file feed to g_order command
>  >>  >>    g_order -f .xtc -s .tpr -n palmit_ord.ndx -o order -od 
> scd.xvg -unsat
>  >>  >
>  >>  >There are no unsaturated carbons in a palmitoyl chain.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >-Justin
>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  This programming is running very slowly
>  >>  >>Have I done any mistake here?
>  >>  >>I would be thankful for your help
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
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Justin A. Lemkul
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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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