[gmx-users] single-precision *.tpr data after a double-precision run

Ran Friedman r.friedman at bioc.uzh.ch
Thu Aug 7 14:19:35 CEST 2008


Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the problem but did you try to include the
energy and trajectory files when running grompp (flags -e and -t)?

Ran.

Inon Sharony wrote:
>
>  Hello GROMACS users!
>
> I've posted a few questions in the last few days about
> double-precision energy minimization for normal mode analysis, and
> everything seems OK except I've been having a re-occurring problem:
>
> The energy minimization procedure ends in
> =========================================
> // grompp_d -f em.mdp -c b4nm_s_7.gro -n index.ndx
> // mdrun_d -c b4nm_s_8.gro -v yes
>
>
> Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
> Converged to machine precision,
> but not to the requested precision Fmax < 1e-06
>
> writing lowest energy coordinates.
>
> Polak-Ribiere Conjugate Gradients converged to machine precision in
> 994 steps,
> but did not reach the requested Fmax < 1e-06.
> Potential Energy  =  3.83658151247483e+00
> Maximum force     =  5.38105464411977e-05 on atom 1
> Norm of force     =  2.07631890036341e-05
>
>
>
> The Hessian matrix write ends in:
> =================================
> // grompp_d -f nm.mdp -c b4nm_s_8.gro -n index.ndx
> // mdrun_d -c nm.gro -mtx nm.mtx -v yes
>
>
>
>
> Reading file topol.tpr, VERSION 3.3.3 (double precision)
> Loaded with Money
>
> Small system size (N=7), using full Hessian format.
> Allocating Hessian memory...
>
> starting normal mode calculation 'Single Molecule of Pentane'
> 7 steps.
>
> Maximum force: 3.51028e+02
> Maximum force probably not small enough to ensure that you are in a
> energy well. Be aware that negative eigenvalues may occur when the
> resulting matrix is diagonalized.
> Finished step 7 out of 7
>
> Writing Hessian...
>
>
>
>
> Clearly, the maximal force is minimized to about 1E-05 kJ / mole nm,
> but when the same *.gro file is read for the Hessian calculation, it
> reads about 1E+02!
> I think the reason is found in the *.tpr file of the energy
> minimization run:
>
> x (7x3):
>       x[    0]={ 3.17800e+00,  3.49300e+00,  3.38500e+00}
>       x[    1]={ 3.31300e+00,  3.51800e+00,  3.31600e+00}
>       x[    2]={ 3.42500e+00,  3.43000e+00,  3.37400e+00}
>       x[    3]={ 3.41400e+00,  3.28500e+00,  3.32700e+00}
>       x[    4]={ 3.52700e+00,  3.20300e+00,  3.38900e+00}
>       x[    5]={ 3.02600e+00,  3.50200e+00,  3.36900e+00}
>       x[    6]={ 3.60400e+00,  3.07000e+00,  3.38200e+00}
>
> This means that although the minimization was run in double precision,
> the atomic configuration is saved in single precision (the last two
> decimal places are not used). Does this mean that each time the
> optimized *.gro file is re-read, it needs to optimize these last two
> decimal places anew, and this makes the difference in SEVEN orders of
> magnitude in the maximal force?
>
> Can anyone offer a solution?
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
>
>
> Inon.
>
>
> Some background information:
> ----------------------------
>
> I'm running GROMACS 3.3.3 on the following system (with bash):
>
> /* composed by Inon Sharony August 6th, 2008              */
> /* -----------------------------------------              */
> /*                                                        */
> /* this file contains the hardware information for Sodium */
> /* the first part details the video card                  */
> /* the second part details the CPUs                       */
> /* the third part details the BIOS and motherboard        */
> /*                                                        */
>
> lspci -v  /* list PCI -verbose */
> =================================
>
> .
> .
> .
>
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT
> (rev a1) (
> prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
>         Subsystem: LeadTek Research Inc. Unknown device 2a94
>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
>         Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
>         Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
>         Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
>         I/O ports at 2000 [size=128]
>         Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
>         Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
> Queue=0/0
> Enable-
>         Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>         Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?>
>         Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?>
>         Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information <?>
>         Kernel driver in use: nvidia
>         Kernel modules: nvidia, nvidiafb
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo /* CPUs information */
> ========================================
>
> processor       : 0
> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> cpu family      : 6
> model           : 15
> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
> stepping        : 11
> cpu MHz         : 1596.000
> cache size      : 4096 KB
> physical id     : 0
> siblings        : 4
> core id         : 0
> cpu cores       : 4
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 10
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
> syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni monitor
> ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
> bogomips        : 4802.25
> clflush size    : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management:
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> /usr/sbin/dmidecode
> ===================
>
> # dmidecode 2.7
> SMBIOS 2.4 present.
> 39 structures occupying 1779 bytes.
> Table at 0x000E3300.
>
> Handle 0x0000, DMI type 4, 35 bytes.
> Processor Information
>         Socket Designation: J1PR
>         Type: Central Processor
>         Family: <OUT OF SPEC>
>         Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
>         ID: FB 06 00 00 FF FB EB BF
>         Version: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
>         Voltage: 1.6 V
>         External Clock: 266 MHz
>         Max Speed: 4000 MHz
>         Current Speed: 2400 MHz
>         Status: Populated, Enabled
>         Upgrade: <OUT OF SPEC>
>         L1 Cache Handle: 0x0003
>         L2 Cache Handle: 0x0001
>         L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
>         Serial Number: Not Specified
>         Asset Tag: Not Specified
>         Part Number: Not Specified
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> /* BIOS information */
>
> Handle 0x0004, DMI type 0, 24 bytes.
> BIOS Information
>         Vendor: Intel Corp.
>         Version: DPP3510J.86A.0326.2007.1206.2256
>         Release Date: 12/06/2007
>         Address: 0xF0000
>         Runtime Size: 64 kB
>         ROM Size: 1024 kB
>         Characteristics:
>                 PCI is supported
>                 BIOS is upgradeable
>                 BIOS shadowing is allowed
>                 Boot from CD is supported
>                 Selectable boot is supported
>                 EDD is supported
>                 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
>                 Serial services are supported (int 14h)
>                 Printer services are supported (int 17h)
>                 CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
>                 ACPI is supported
>                 USB legacy is supported
>                 ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
>                 BIOS boot specification is supported
>                 Function key-initiated network boot is supported
>                 Targeted content distribution is supported
>         BIOS Revision: 0.0
>         Firmware Revision: 0.0
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> /* Motherboard information */
>
> Handle 0x0006, DMI type 2, 20 bytes.
> Base Board Information
>         Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
>         Product Name: DP35DP
>         Version: AAD81073-207
>         Serial Number: USDP747001WP
>         Asset Tag: Base Board Asset Tag
>         Features:
>                 Board is a hosting board
>                 Board is replaceable
>         Location In Chassis: Base Board Chassis Location
>         Chassis Handle: 0x0007
>         Type: Unknown
>         Contained Object Handles: 0
>
>
>
> --Inon   Sharony
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Ran Friedman
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Computational Structural Biology Group (A. Caflisch)
Department of Biochemistry
University of Zurich
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CH-8057 Zurich, Switzerland
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