[gmx-users] Berendsen Temperature Coupling and Heat

David van der Spoel spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Wed Jul 30 09:35:34 CEST 2008


Daniel S. Han wrote:
> Hello,
> I am running a steered MD simulation in an NPT ensemble using Berendsen 
> thermostats.  I expect that my system could heat up due to the external 
> forces, and this heat would eventually be absorbed by the heat bath.
> 
> I thought I could get an estimate of the heat released by looking at the 
> Temperature (T) and lambda values (velocity scaling factors) available 
> in the gromacs energy output files, but I wasn't sure I was calculating 
> it correctly.
> 
> Here's the algorithm I thought might work:
> at every time step, we have a Temperature (T) and a Lambda (L) taken 
> from the edr output file.
> 
> Where we can calculate the kinetic energy at any step as:
> Kinetic Energy (KE) = .5 * N_degrees_of_freedom * K_boltzman * T
> (which I'll call KE_output)
> 
> If I understand correctly, KE_output is the result after scaling by 
> Lambda^2.  So if there were no temperature scaling, then the kinetic 
> energy would be equal to:
> KE_no_scaling = KE_output / (lambda*lambda)
> 
> Thus the heat exchanged between the system and the bath is:
> Heat = KE_output - KE_no_scaling
> where if heat is negative, it means that heat was released by the system 
> and absorbed by the bath.
> 
> Using this algorithm I found some odd results, where I found that both 
> my Steered MD simulations and a simulation of the same system without 
> external forces tended to absorb heat.
> I can post more details of that later, but for now, if anyone has any 
> corrections/comments to this line of thought, it would be much appreciated.
> 

It seems your appraoch is right. You can just plot lambda using 
g_energy. If it less than one on average you are cooling, if it is more 
than one you are heating the system.

If you integrate lambda - 1 you can compute the net heat flux into/out 
of the system.

> Thanks in advance,
> Danny.
> 
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