[gmx-users] neighborsearching in semiisotropic systems

Till Rudack till at bph.rub.de
Wed Jun 4 11:54:53 CEST 2008


Hi Berk,
the whole system I want to simulate contents a membrane (that's why I 
use semiisotropic pressure coupling) and this system crashed with the 
same error message.
In the membrane system and in the small test system no distortion of the 
box can be observed during the simulation. The cubic form of the box is 
stable.


            Step           Time         Lambda
         1555000     3110.00000        0.00000

    Rel. Constraint Deviation:  Max    between atoms     RMS
        Before LINCS         0.016766     46     47   0.003642
         After LINCS         0.000042     23     25   0.000013

    Energies (kJ/mol)
        G96Angle    Proper Dih.  Improper Dih.          LJ-14     Coulomb-14
     1.61040e+02    6.05084e+01    3.35858e+01    1.03030e+01    1.32855e+03
         LJ (SR)        LJ (LR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.      Potential
     2.25304e+04   -6.11549e+02   -1.40294e+05   -1.72589e+04   -1.34040e+05
     Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
     2.39730e+04   -1.10067e+05    2.97751e+02   -1.18958e+02

Grid: 6 x 6 x 8 cells
Grid: 5 x 5 x 8 cells
Grid: 6 x 6 x 8 cells
Grid: 5 x 5 x 8 cells
Grid: 6 x 6 x 8 cells
Grid: 5 x 5 x 8 cells
Grid: 6 x 6 x 8 cells
Grid: 5 x 5 x 8 cells
-------------------------------------------------------
Program mdrun_d.mpi, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

Range checking error:
Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
energy seems reasonable before trying again.

Variable ci has value 284. It should have been within [ 0 .. 200 ]
Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users at gromacs.org)
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I have no explanation why the system with semiisotropic pressure 
coupling crashes within the 10ns simulation with tau_p=0.5 and does not 
crash with tau_p=5.0. The other problem is starting two identical 
simulations the systems crashed at different timesteps.

Till

Berk Hess schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Did you check how your box dimensions evolve?
> 
> For a homogeneous system (as your small test system)
> one should not use semi or anisotropic pressure coupling,
> since the box shape can distort unlimitedly causing
> the system to crash.
> 
> Berk.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:00:14 +0200
>  > From: till at bph.rub.de
>  > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
>  > Subject: [gmx-users] neighborsearching in semiisotropic systems
>  >
>  > Dear users,
>  >
>  > During protein simulations occurred the range checking error of the
>  > neighborsearching. I checked the comments on this mistake in the user
>  > list and then checked my system on any hints of an exploding system but
>  > it seems to be stable. In order to be sure I cut down the system to a
>  > small peptide consisting of only ten aminoacids and used the ffG43a1
>  > forcefield.
>  >
>  >
>  > I performed 10ns simulations of this small system in a cubic
>  > spc-waterbox with different pressure parameters and tried single and
>  > double precision. I got the following results:
>  >
>  >
>  > For
>  >
>  > pcoupltype = semiisotropic
>  >
>  > tau_p = 0.5 0.5
>  >
>  > compressibility = 4.5E-5 4.5E-5
>  >
>  > ref_p = 1 1
>  >
>  >
>  > with double precision occurred the mistake:
>  >
>  >
>  > -------------------------------------------------------
>  >
>  > Program mdrun_d.mpi, VERSION 3.3.1
>  >
>  > Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226
>  >
>  >
>  > Range checking error:
>  >
>  > Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
>  >
>  > based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
>  >
>  > errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with 
> some
>  >
>  > coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
>  >
>  > put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
>  >
>  > Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
>  >
>  > energy seems reasonable before trying again.
>  >
>  >
>  > Variable ci has value 284. It should have been within [ 0 .. 200 ]
>  >
>  > Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users at gromacs.org
>  > <mailto:gmx-users at gromacs.org>)
>  >
>  >
>  > Then, I changed tau_p to 5.0 and the mistake did not occurce anymore
>  > during the 10 ns. With single precision the mistake never occurres. I
>  > also tested double precision with pcoupltype = isotropic and this also
>  > works.
>  >
>  > Next, I wanted to reproduce the mistake so I took the same tpr file of
>  > the crashed simulation with tau_p = 0.5 and started the simulation
>  > again. The mistake occurred again but not at the same timestep. The
>  > first run crashed after step 1558630 and the second run after step
>  > 2597500 and also the ci variable is not exactly the same (Variable ci
>  > has value 283. It should have been within [ 0 .. 200 ]).
>  >
>  >
>  > I think there might be a problem between the neighborsearching and the
>  > semiisotropic pressurcoupling together with double precision. I am quite
>  > sure that the peptide is not the problem. Maybe there is a problem with
>  > a water molecule. I would be glad if someone can give me an explanation
>  > why this mistake is not reproducable at the same timestep and why it
>  > occures with tau_p=0.5 and not with tau_p=5.0.
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  >
>  >
>  > Till
>  >
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