[gmx-users] the Temperature in the mdp.file

David Chan dichan at ucalgary.ca
Tue Nov 11 21:42:44 CET 2008


Hi He Yang,

I've never worked with DNA simulations before, but I don't think you 
should have a timestep of 0.0001 ps. For proteins, people commonly use 
0.002ps, i.e 20 x larger than what you are using. The number of steps 
you are using is quite small too. Also, where did you get your rlist = 
0.686 value? I've never seen this before (which may just be me), but it 
may be good to have another mdp file as a reference (see tutorials or 
mailing list?). An online tutorial may also give you an indication of 
what kind of dissociating/movement to expect, which may help you 
evaluate what you're observing in your simulations.

D.

He, Yang wrote:
> Hi Yang Ye,
>
> Thank you for your reply. When I change the temperature, the disassociation about the two strands of DNA always happened even though the temperature is reduced to 0K. It is absolutely impossible.
>
> I think it is a real disassociation. So I am confused about the phenomenon .
>
> Any further suggestions ? I really appreciate your help.
>
> Yang
> ________________________________________
> From: gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org [gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Yang Ye [leafyoung at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:35 PM
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the Temperature in the mdp.file
>
> Is it a real diassociation or an illusion? Visualize with PBC in mind.
> To put them back, use trjconv  to center one chain of the DNA and
> output the two chains.
>
> On 11/11/08, He, Yang <yang.he at mavs.uta.edu> wrote:
> Hi all users.
>   
>> When I change the Temperature in the madp file to try to get different result about DNA model\'s disassociation , but it is strange that result seems to be the same for different Temperature. Even I change the Temperature by 0K ,the disassociation happened.
>>
>> I have tried to reduce the force between some bond and non-bond, but the effect is not very good.
>>
>> This is part of my mdp file:
>>
>> ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
>> integrator               = md
>> ; Start time and timestep in ps
>> tinit                    = 0
>> dt                       = 0.0001
>> nsteps                   =100000
>> ; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
>> init_step                = 0
>> ; mode for center of mass motion removal
>> comm-mode                = Linear
>> ; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
>> nstcomm                  = 1
>> ; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
>> comm-grps                =
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
>> ; nblist update frequency
>> nstlist                  = 10
>> ; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
>> ns_type                  = grid
>> ; Periodic boundary conditions: xyz (default), no (vacuum)
>> ; or full (infinite systems only)
>> pbc                      = xyz
>> ; nblist cut-off
>> rlist                    = 0.686
>> domain-decomposition     = no
>>
>> ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
>> ; Method for doing electrostatics
>> coulombtype              = User
>> rcoulomb-switch          = 0
>> rcoulomb                 = 0.9
>> ; Relative dielectric constant for the Cut-off or DC of the reaction field
>> epsilon-r                = 78
>> ; Method for doing Van der Waals
>> vdw-type                 = User
>> ; cut-off lengths
>> rvdw-switch              = 0
>> rvdw                     = 0.9
>> ; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure
>> DispCorr                 = EnerPres
>> ; Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off
>> table-extension          = 1
>> ; Seperate tables between energy group pairs
>> energygrp_table          =
>> ; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
>> fourierspacing           = 0.12
>> ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used
>> fourier_nx               = 0
>> fourier_ny               = 0
>> fourier_nz               = 0
>> ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
>> pme_order                = 4
>> ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
>> ewald_geometry           = 3d
>> epsilon_surface          = 0
>> optimize_fft             = no
>>
>> ; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS
>> ; Algorithm for calculating Born radii
>> gb_algorithm             = Still
>> ; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist
>> nstgbradii               = 1
>> ; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms
>> ; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps
>> rgbradii                 = 2
>> ; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models
>> gb_saltconc              = 0
>>
>> ; IMPLICIT SOLVENT (for use with Generalized Born electrostatics)
>> implicit_solvent         = No
>>
>> ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
>> ; Temperature coupling
>> Tcoupl                   = berendsen
>> ; Groups to couple separately
>> tc-grps                  = System
>> ; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
>> tau_t                    = 0.1
>> ref_t                    = 300
>> ; Pressure coupling
>> Pcoupl                   = no
>> Pcoupltype               = isotropic
>> ; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar)
>> tau_p                    = 0.5
>> compressibility          = 4.5e-5
>> ref_p                    = 1.0
>> ; Random seed for Andersen thermostat
>> andersen_seed            = 815131
>>
>>
>> Can anyone of you tell me what is the reason for that?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> Yang
>>
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> Yang Ye
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