[gmx-users] simulation in vacuum
Xavier Periole
X.Periole at rug.nl
Wed Sep 17 18:43:52 CEST 2008
Actually in vaccum the RF is meaningless ... use cutoff.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:49:38 +0200
Thomas Schlesier <schlesi at uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> >>/ Thank you. > />/ But i have one last question: >
>/>/For epsilon_rf i use the relative permittivity of the medium. I simulate
>>in > />/vacuum so epsilon_rf would be 1? > /GROMOS ff is not parameterized
>for vaccum simulations of the b-something > version ... have look at the
>paper. > > > So i should use ffG43b1 instead of the other GROMOS96 force
>fields? That would be the right choice for the GROMOS43 ff series. >
>In the GROMACS manual i found that the cut-off-distance must at least be 1.4
>>nm for the GROMOS96 force field. Never believe what is written in a
>manual :)) It is always better to keep the values that are used for
>parameterization (the one I gave you) when using a force field. The idea that
>bigger = better does not work ... you change the balance of forces and thus
>the properties of the force field. > So can i use: type = cut-off; rlist
>= 1.4 and r_x = 1.7? > (the problem is that the only reference i find for
>ffG43b1 is the GROMOS >manual, and that's not free avaible) Any paper
>from van Gunsteren group or Alan Mark groujp (GROMOS developers) would
>describe the simulation setup: no need of the manual for this. > Thanks
>for an answer > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ >
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>http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php I looked in some older papers
>but found no values for epsilon_r and _rf. From older posts of this mailing
>list I got the impression that epsilon_r = 1 and epsilon_rf the value of the
>relative permitivity of the medium. In the case of a simulation in vacuum
>epsilon_rf would be also 1 and then I have no correction from the reaction
>field, also grompp tells me that epsilon_r = epsilon_rf would be meaningless
>with a reaction field. So I'm puzzeld.
> If both epsilon values have the same value, is it then equal to normal
>cut-offs (type = cut-off)?
> Sorry for the many questions.
> Thomas
>
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XAvier Periole - PhD
Molecular Dynamics Group / NMR and Computation
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
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