[gmx-users] Doubt regarding membrane protein in POPC bilayer

Pawan Kumar pawan.chinari at gmail.com
Tue Apr 7 06:21:00 CEST 2009


Hello Sir,

Can you please tell me how to couple ions with SOL ?
Is there any command in gromacs to do that ?

Thanking you,
Pawan

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>wrote:

> Pawan Kumar wrote:
>
>> Respected Sir,
>>
>> Greetings from Pawan.
>> Sorry for the inconvenience about the .mdp file.
>> The mdp file used for the final run is
>> *_
>> final.mdp file_*_
>>
>> _title               =  Protein in POPC bilayer
>> cpp                 =  /usr/bin/cpp
>> constraints         =  all-bonds
>> constraint-algorithm=  Lincs
>> integrator          =  md
>> dt                  =  0.002   nsteps              =  5000   nstcomm
>>       =  1
>> nstxout             =  50
>> nstvout             =  1000
>> nstfout             =  0
>> nstlog              =  10
>> nstenergy           =  10
>> nstlist             =  10
>> ns_type             =  grid
>> rlist               =  1
>> coulombtype         =  PME
>> rcoulomb            =  1
>> vdw-type            =  Cut-off
>> rvdw                =  1
>> ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
>> tcoupl              = berendsen
>> tc_grps             = Protein POPC SOL CL-
>> tau_t               = 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1
>> ref_t               = 300 300 300 300
>>
>
> Don't couple ions seperately. See
> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Thermostats
>
> Mark
>
>  ; Energy monitoring
>> energygrps        =  Protein POPC SOL CL-
>> ; Pressure coupling is on
>> ;Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>> tau_p               =  2.0 2.0
>> compressibility     =  4.5e-5 4.5e-5
>> ref_p               =  1.0 1.0
>> Pcoupl_type         =  semiisotropic
>> ; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
>> gen_vel             =  yes
>> gen_temp            =  300.0
>> gen_seed            =  173529
>> _*
>> mdp file for position restraint mdrun*_
>>
>> title               =  Protein in POPC bilayer
>> cpp                 =  /usr/bin/cpp
>> define              =  -DPOSRES -DPOSRES_LIPID
>> constraints         =  all-bonds
>> constraint-algorithm=  Lincs
>> integrator          =  md
>> dt                  =  0.002   nsteps              =  5000   nstcomm
>>       =  1
>> nstxout             =  50
>> nstvout             =  1000
>> nstfout             =  0
>> nstlog              =  10
>> nstenergy           =  10
>> nstlist             =  10
>> ns_type             =  grid
>> rlist               =  1
>> coulombtype         =  PME
>> rcoulomb            =  1
>> vdw-type            =  Cut-off
>> rvdw                =  1
>> ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
>> tcoupl              = berendsen
>> tc_grps             = Protein POPC SOL CL-
>> tau_t               = 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1
>> ref_t               = 300 300 300 300
>> ; Energy monitoring
>> energygrps        =  Protein POPC SOL CL-
>> ; Pressure coupling is on
>> ;Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>> tau_p               =  2.0 2.0
>> compressibility     =  4.5e-5 4.5e-5
>> ref_p               =  1.0 1.0
>> Pcoupl_type         =  semiisotropic
>> ; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
>> gen_vel             =  yes
>> gen_temp            =  300.0
>> gen_seed            =  173529
>>
>>
>> Thanking you,
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>> Pawan
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Pawan Kumar wrote:
>>
>>
>>        Respected Sir,
>>
>>        Greetings from Pawan.
>>                   1. Were there gaps between the water and lipid
>> headgroups?
>>         If so,
>>           the lipids may be pulling towards the solvent.  Restrain the
>>        lipids
>>           and run an equilibration for a longer time.
>>
>>        Gap was there when  I used a  value of 0.5 in the vdwradii.dat
>>        file. The gap reduced as I decreased the value from 0.5 to 0.35
>>        to the default of 0.15. I tried all the three possibilities.
>>        When I used the default vdwradii.dat file and made the solvation
>>        followed by simulation runs the lipids didnt pull apart. But
>>        there were water molecules on the sides of the bilayer and not
>>        in the interior.
>>
>>
>>    This indicates to me that the gaps are causing the problem.  Do not
>>    run simulations with water in or around the lipids; it is not
>>    realistic.  You can clean up such a starting structure, either by
>>    some clever script like those on the wiki, or by looking at the
>>    structure, taking note of which water molecules are offending, and
>>    deleting them manually from the coordinate file.
>>
>>    The other option is to temporarily give genbox a box that is
>>    slightly smaller in the x-y dimensions, so that it will try to place
>>    less water around the POPC periphery.
>>
>>
>>
>>           2. 5000 steps is far too short to expect any realistic
>>        behavior for
>>           lipids. Equilibration can take upwards of 10-20 ns.
>>
>>        As per your suggestion I have made the final mdrun now again
>>        with 500000 steps. Hopefully this will work.
>>
>>
>>           3. You haven't mentioned the contents of your .mdp file.  Maybe
>>           you're doing something wrong.
>>
>>        I am using the same .mdp file which I posted before. I have just
>>        removed the restraints.
>>
>>
>>    I don't have record of the previous email; as a general guide, post
>>    the .mdp by default when experiencing weird behavior.  That way the
>>    users on this list won't have to go combing through the archive to
>>    find it.  If you want free help, make it easy to help you :)
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>
>>           4. Are you using Gromos/Berger or OPLS/converted Berger for your
>>           system?  There have been so many of these questions from
>>        different
>>           users over the last few days that it's hard to keep track.
>>         If you
>>           are using OPLS/converted Berger you may have made a mistake in
>>           translating the C6/C12 parameters.
>>
>>        I am using  gromos 96 force field (G43a1) and as per your
>>        suggestion I have edited the lipid.itp file to remove the part
>>        containing " lipid-gromos interactions".
>>
>>
>>
>>        Thanking you,
>>
>>        Yours sincerely,
>>        Pawan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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