[gmx-users] atom H is missing in the first residue in a chain

Zhong Zheng zhozheng at gmail.com
Thu Jan 15 08:27:07 CET 2009


Thanks Justin. I fixed it this time. I basically renamed the terminal  
residues. The reason it didn't work last time is probably because some  
format problem. Thanks again.



On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

>
>
> Zhong Zheng wrote:
>> You mean rename ALA as NALA in the .pdb for the n-terminus Ala? If  
>> so, i tried already and still not working.
>
> Yes, you would have to rename all N-terminal ALA as NALA, as well as  
> specify the correct Amber residue names for all other amino acids in  
> your structure (i.e., C-terminal residues, histidines, etc).  An  
> easy way might be to process your .pdb with xLeap (now free as part  
> of AmberTools), and use the output .pdb as your input into pdb2gmx.
>
> Have you carefully followed all instructions here:
>
> http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/#usage
>
> Have you updated your aminoacids.dat appropriately (see above link)?
>
> -Justin
>
>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>>>
>>> Please keep all correspondence on the list.
>>>
>>> Zhong Zheng wrote:
>>>> Yes.
>>>> Amber. Gromacs Version 4.0.2. It's compiled on my computer,  
>>>> macbook. I followed standard procedure,nothing special.
>>>
>>> The Amber force fields use their own special nomenclature, so N- 
>>> terminal alanine would actually be called NALA.  You will have to  
>>> modify your .pdb file to correspond with Amber naming conventions  
>>> before this step will complete properly.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Zhong Zheng wrote:
>>>>>> I tried this: pdb2gmx -f prot.pdb -ignh, not working
>>>>>> What I am using is : pdb2gmx -f prot.pdb -missing
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the behavior occur when you process each chain separately?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which force field are you using?  Which version of Gromacs are  
>>>>> you using, and how was it compiled?  I experienced the same  
>>>>> behavior in version 3.3.1, resulting from a broken Ubuntu package.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>>>>>>> What is your exact pdb2gmx command line?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zhong Zheng wrote:
>>>>>>>> hi
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. I tried -ignh and it doesn't help. I  
>>>>>>>> understand -missing is bad but I made sure the only missing  
>>>>>>>> atoms the program complains are the first residue in each  
>>>>>>>> three chains.
>>>>>>>> I am using a crystal structure. However the warning messages  
>>>>>>>> are only for the first residue in each chain.
>>>>>>>> Zhong
>>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Zhong Zheng wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>> I am running Gromacs on a three-chain protein. The program  
>>>>>>>>>> complains about "atom H is missing in residue ALA 1 in the  
>>>>>>>>>> pdb file, You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen  
>>>>>>>>>> database of residue ALA in the file ff???.hdb (see the  
>>>>>>>>>> manual)". It's a warning message. I can use the option - 
>>>>>>>>>> missing to ignore it. However I would like to understand  
>>>>>>>>>> this. It's always the first residue in the chain. So I am  
>>>>>>>>>> thinking this is because they are the n-terminus. Then why  
>>>>>>>>>> no complain about c-terminus? How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use -ignh to allow the relevant .hdb file to add the  
>>>>>>>>> appropriate hydrogens.  The problem is that, without -ignh,  
>>>>>>>>> pdb2gmx expects all atoms (including H) to be present in  
>>>>>>>>> the .pdb file.  If you are using a crystal structure, this  
>>>>>>>>> requirement will not be satisfied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Likely pdb2gmx does not complain about the C-terminus  
>>>>>>>>> because it is unprotonated, or otherwise the program exits  
>>>>>>>>> after finding a missing N-terminal hydrogen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As an aside, using -missing is generally a very bad idea,  
>>>>>>>>> unless you have a very specific (and anticipated!) reason to  
>>>>>>>>> use it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>>> Zhong Zheng
>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D candidate
>>>>>>>>>> Physics Dept., City College-CUNY
>>>>>>>>>> Marshak Science Building J-419 , 160 Convent Ave, New York,  
>>>>>>>>>> NY 10031 USA
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: (212)650-6079 MCCE wiki: scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/ 
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