[gmx-users] RE:appropriate values fot tau_t and tau_p

Rolf Erwin Isele-Holder Rolf.Isele at rwth-aachen.de
Tue Jul 28 11:38:02 CEST 2009


Hi,

thank you for your help, Berk.
The propertie I am looking for is the partial molar volume which can be calculated with this equation and a test particle insertion:

vi=<V^2exp(-bU)>/<Vexp(-bU)> - <V>

To find out the right mdp parameters I made test runs with a pure box of argon as vapour, so I could calculate the partial molar volume with vi=V/N and  compare the results.
I tested values for tau_t and tau_p from 0.2 to 10. Then I realized that that I picked a much to small value for the isothermal compressibility and perfomed new runs with values for tau_t and tau_p from 10 to 20.
I've chosen ffG43a1 as Force Field. The mdp file I used for the simulations looks like this:


; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
title                    = Yo
cpp                      = /usr/bin/cpp
include                  = 
define                   = 

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator               =md
; Start time and timestep in ps
tinit                    = 0
dt                       = 0.002
nsteps                   = 10000000
; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
init_step                = 0
; mode for center of mass motion removal
comm-mode                = Linear
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
nstcomm                  = 1
; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
comm-grps                = 

; LANGEVIN DYNAMICS OPTIONS
; Temperature, friction coefficient (amu/ps) and random seed
bd-fric                  = 0
ld-seed                  = 1993

; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
; Force tolerance and initial step-size
emtol                    = 0.01
emstep                   = 1
; Max number of iterations in relax_shells
niter                    = 50
; Step size (1/ps^2) for minimization of flexible constraints
fcstep                   = 1000
; Frequency of steepest descents steps when doing CG
nstcgsteep               = 1000
nbfgscorr                = 10

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
nstxout                  = 100
nstvout                  = 100
nstfout                  = 0
; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
nstcheckpoint            = 1000
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
nstlog                   = 250
nstenergy                = 50
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
nstxtcout                = 1000
xtc-precision            = 1000
; This selects the subset of atoms for the xtc file. You can
; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
xtc-grps                 = 
; Selection of energy groups
energygrps               = 

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
; nblist update frequency
nstlist                  = 5
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns_type                  = grid
; Periodic boundary conditions: xyz (default), no (vacuum)
; or full (infinite systems only)
pbc                      = xyz
; nblist cut-off        
rlist                    = 2.5
domain-decomposition     = no

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype              = Cut-off
rcoulomb-switch          = 0
rcoulomb                 = 2.5
; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field
epsilon-r                = 1
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type                 = Cut-off
; cut-off lengths       
rvdw-switch              = 0
rvdw                     = 2.5
; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure
DispCorr                 = EnerPres
; Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off
table-extension          = 1
; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing           = 0.12
; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used
fourier_nx               = 0
fourier_ny               = 0
fourier_nz               = 0
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
pme_order                = 4
ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
ewald_geometry           = 3d
epsilon_surface          = 0
optimize_fft             = no

; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS
; Algorithm for calculating Born radii
gb_algorithm             = Still
; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist
nstgbradii               = 1
; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms
; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps
rgbradii                 = 2
; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models
gb_saltconc              = 0

; IMPLICIT SOLVENT (for use with Generalized Born electrostatics)
implicit_solvent         = No

; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
; Temperature coupling  
Tcoupl                   = nose-hoover
; Groups to couple separately
tc-grps                  = System
; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
tau_t                    = 20
ref_t                    = 115.77
; Pressure coupling    
Pcoupl                   = Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype               = isotropic
; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar)
tau_p                    = 20
compressibility          = 0.125
ref_p                    = 8
; Random seed for Andersen thermostat
andersen_seed            = 815131

; SIMULATED ANNEALING  
; Type of annealing for each temperature group (no/single/periodic)
annealing                = no
; Number of time points to use for specifying annealing in each group
annealing_npoints        = 
; List of times at the annealing points for each group
annealing_time           = 
; Temp. at each annealing point, for each group.
annealing_temp           = 

; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel                  = yes
gen_temp                 = 115.77
gen_seed                 = 1993

; OPTIONS FOR BONDS    
constraints              = all-bonds
; Type of constraint algorithm
constraint-algorithm     = Lincs
; Do not constrain the start configuration
unconstrained-start      = no
; Use successive overrelaxation to reduce the number of shake iterations
Shake-SOR                = no
; Relative tolerance of shake
shake-tol                = 1e-04
; Highest order in the expansion of the constraint coupling matrix
lincs-order              = 4
; Number of iterations in the final step of LINCS. 1 is fine for
; normal simulations, but use 2 to conserve energy in NVE runs.
; For energy minimization with constraints it should be 4 to 8.
lincs-iter               = 1
; Lincs will write a warning to the stderr if in one step a bond
; rotates over more degrees than
lincs-warnangle          = 30
; Convert harmonic bonds to morse potentials
morse                    = no

; ENERGY GROUP EXCLUSIONS
; Pairs of energy groups for which all non-bonded interactions are excluded
energygrp_excl           = 

; NMR refinement stuff 
; Distance restraints type: No, Simple or Ensemble
disre                    = No
; Force weighting of pairs in one distance restraint: Conservative or Equal
disre-weighting          = Conservative
; Use sqrt of the time averaged times the instantaneous violation
disre-mixed              = no
disre-fc                 = 1000
disre-tau                = 0
; Output frequency for pair distances to energy file
nstdisreout              = 100
; Orientation restraints: No or Yes
orire                    = no
; Orientation restraints force constant and tau for time averaging
orire-fc                 = 0
orire-tau                = 0
orire-fitgrp             = 
; Output frequency for trace(SD) to energy file
nstorireout              = 100
; Dihedral angle restraints: No, Simple or Ensemble
dihre                    = No
dihre-fc                 = 1000
dihre-tau                = 0
; Output frequency for dihedral values to energy file
nstdihreout              = 100

; Free energy control stuff
free-energy              = no
init-lambda              = 0
delta-lambda             = 0
sc-alpha                 = 0
sc-sigma                 = 0.3

; Non-equilibrium MD stuff
acc-grps                 = 
accelerate               = 
freezegrps               = 
freezedim                = 
cos-acceleration         = 0

; Electric fields      
; Format is number of terms (int) and for all terms an amplitude (real)
; and a phase angle (real)
E-x                      = 
E-xt                     = 
E-y                      = 
E-yt                     = 
E-z                      = 
E-zt                     = 

; User defined thingies
user1-grps               = 
user2-grps               = 
userint1                 = 0
userint2                 = 0
userint3                 = 0
userint4                 = 0
userreal1                = 0
userreal2                = 0
userreal3                = 0
userreal4                = 0

I hope you can find errors, that I've made.

Rolf



>Hi,

>You do not mention your the values you tried, nor other critical mdp parameters,
>nor the property you are looking for, so it is difficult to help you.

>In general, the larger you make tau_t and tau_p, the better things should get.
>tau_p should be larger than tau_t, otherwise you might induce oscillations
>by couplings between the thermo and barostat.
>
>Berk


>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm trying to receive thermal properties of a LJ liquid by performing a NPT simulation. To ensure the simulation is in the canonic ensemble, I've chosen the Nose-Hoover thermostat and the Parrinello-Rahmann barostat. I performed several runs with different values for tau_t and tau_p. The results showed, that the property which I am looking for depends on the value of these two parameters. Does anybody know, how to chose these values to get fluctuations, which correspond to the canonical ensemble?
>>
>> Rolf



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