[gmx-users] Polyethylene (PE) simulations in Gromacs - please!

Chansoo Kim tree.csc at gmail.com
Tue Mar 3 15:42:20 CET 2009


Dear Justin and gmx-users:

Thank you for your answer, Justin.

Since I corrected error related to "blank" in the input files (pdb and
etc.), it has never given me "segmentation fault."
So... this problem is not related to this one anyway.

Now, I will try to correct others by following your suggestion.

After trying, I will contact you again... :)

Thank you again!!


Sincerely yours,

C Kim

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Chansoo Kim wrote:
>
>> Dear Justin:
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>> I was too urgent, so I did not clarify my questions.
>> Sorry about that.
>>
>> I totally understand how topology files (tdb, hdb, and etc..) work, but I
>> do not clearly understand chemical reaction, which I have to define in those
>> files...
>>
>>
> No chemical reactions occur :)  See comments embedded below
>
>
>
>> [Situation]
>> I want to do simulate polyethylene (PE) using Gromacs and OPLS-AA force
>> field...
>>
>> [Topology files and etc]
>>  (1) rtp file
>>
>> [ Eth ]
>>  [ atoms ]
>>   C1    opls_136    -0.120    1
>>   H11   opls_140     0.060    1
>>   H12   opls_140     0.060    1
>>   C2    opls_136    -0.120    2
>>   H21   opls_140     0.060    2
>>   H22   opls_140     0.060    2
>>  [ bonds ]
>>   C1    H11
>>   C1    H12
>>   C1    C2
>>   C2    H21
>>   C2    H22
>>   C2    +C1
>>
>>
>>  (2) hdb file
>> Eth     2
>> 2       6       H1       C1      C2     +C1
>> 2       6       H2       C2      C1     -C2
>>
>>
>>  (3) -c.tdb file
>>
>> [ Eth ]
>> [ replace ]
>> C1      opls_135        12.011  -0.18
>> [ add ]
>> 3        4      H1      C1      C2
>>         opls_140       1.008   0.06
>> [ delete ]
>> H21
>> H22
>>
>>
>>  (4) -n.tdb file
>>
>> [ Eth ]
>> [ replace ]
>> C2      opls_135        12.011   -0.18
>> [ add ]
>> 3        4      H2      C2      C1
>>         opls_140       1.008   0.06
>> [ delete ]
>> H21
>> H22
>>
>>
> Note that the message you referenced in your first post (which provided you
> with this .rtp entry) resulted in a segmentation fault, therefore indicating
> that it probably won't work.
>
>
>>   (5) input pdb file
>>
>> ATOM 1 C1 Eth 1 1.000 1.540 0.000
>>
>> ATOM      2  C2  Eth     1       2.456   2.041   0.000
>> ATOM      3  C1  Eth     2       2.456   3.581   0.000
>> ATOM      4  C2  Eth     2       3.912   4.083   0.000
>> ATOM      5  C1  Eth     3       3.912   5.623   0.000
>> ATOM      6  C2  Eth     3       5.368   6.124   0.000
>> END
>>
>>
>> [Error]
>> When I did run the pdb2gmx, I got the following error.
>> "Atom -C not found in residue PEth1 while adding hydrogens"
>>
>> [Question #1 and #2]
>> Therefore, what I should define more...?
>> What does the "+" and "-" mean here?
>>
>
> + means next residue, - means previous.
>
>
>>
>> [If...]
>> If I change the hdb file as follows,
>>
>> Eth     2
>> 2       6       H1       C1      C2     C1
>> 2       6       H2       C2      C1     C2
>>
>>
>> After doing pdb2gmx, I got only 12 H-atoms (which means my terminal did
>> NOT work...).
>> And those positions are all (0, 0, 0).
>>
>>
> Right, because H positioning in a polymer chain may depend on previous (-)
> or subsequent (+) residues, so the code doesn't know where to put them.
>
>
>  Following is the results,
>>
>> LE     Giving Russians Opium May Alter Current Situation
>> MODEL        1
>> ATOM      1  C1  PEt     1       1.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      2  H11 PEt     1       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      3  H12 PEt     1       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      4  C2  PEt     1       2.450   6.000   1.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      5  H21 PEt     1       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      6  H22 PEt     1       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      7  C1  PEt     2       2.450   6.000   1.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      8  H11 PEt     2       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM      9  H12 PEt     2       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     10  C2  PEt     2       3.910   2.000   3.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     11  H21 PEt     2       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     12  H22 PEt     2       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     13  C1  PEt     3       3.910   2.000   3.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     14  H11 PEt     3       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     15  H12 PEt     3       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     16  C2  PEt     3       5.360   8.000   4.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     17  H21 PEt     3       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> ATOM     18  H22 PEt     3       0.000   0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
>> TER
>> ENDMDL
>>
>> [Question #3 from If... section ]
>> I guess that I have to change hdb and tdb files.
>> Would you please give some guide on that...?
>>
>>
> Knowing that many people have tried to define PE with .tdb entries (and I
> think success is limited), I would suggest the following.  Define distinct
> .rtp entries for the caps of your chain.  Don't bother with -n.tdb and
> -c.tdb; I don't know how well the Gromacs code handles non-protein termini
> (maybe it works, but it seems to give fits for polymers).  The .rtp entry
> for PE you've shown above seems reasonable enough for a PE monomer within
> the chain, but may require some tweaking (since I've never tried, I don't
> know).
>
> -Justin
>
>  Thank you for your care!
>>
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>>
>> C Kim
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Chansoo Kim wrote:
>>
>>        Dear Dr. Benkova and others:
>>
>>
>>        I am C. Kim and trying to simulation polymer system.
>>
>>        Since I guessed that polyethylene (PE) is a simple system, it
>>        could be not that hard to simulate it in Gromacs.
>>        Trying to do, I have read Dr. Benkova's articles in gmx-users
>>        mailing list to tackle my problems.
>>        Sorry to say, I could not solve problems, so I am asking your help!
>>
>>        Actually I have used your files written in followings,
>>
>>        http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg12204.html
>>
>>        [Q1]
>>        After getting the result from the pdb2gmx, I could not see any
>>        H-atoms in my system.
>>        All the H-atoms have 0, 0, 0 positions!
>>        Therefore, my question is
>>          how I should define hdb?
>>
>>
>>    The .hdb file format is explained in the manual.
>>
>>
>>
>>        [Q2]
>>        When I use -C2, and +C1 in hdb file, I always meet error.
>>
>>
>>    What is the error?
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        Is there any other things to add to the ffopls*.* files...?
>>
>>        Thank you for your care!
>>
>>
>>        Sincerely
>>        C. Kim
>>
>>
>>
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