[gmx-users] Doubt regarding membrane protein in POPC bilayer

Pawan Kumar pawan.chinari at gmail.com
Mon Mar 23 11:58:36 CET 2009


Hello Justin Sir,

Greetings from Pawan.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Next time I will keep in mind about the subject line.
I tried deleting those particular atoms where it gave the maximum force.
But every time a new atom with a maximum force was given in the output.
Is it fine to use to use "constraints = all-angles" in order to overcome the
Lincs warnings ?
Thanks in advance.

Thanking you,
Pawan




On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
> When replying to digests, please change the subject line to something
> relevant.
>
> Pawan Kumar wrote:
>
>> Hello Justin Sir,
>>
>> Greetings from Pawan.
>> Sorry for the late reply.
>> The max. force was 1.2447973e+o5 on atom 19448.
>>
>
> An Fmax that high is sure to generate problems.  It is up to you to inspect
> your system, understand which atoms are interacting to cause such a force,
> and determine if you've done something wrong.
>
> -Justin
>
>  This particular atom belongs to one of the lipid residues of the bilayer.
>> I get Lincs warnings whenever I run the position restraint mdrun.
>>
>> Thanking you,
>> Pawan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Pawan Kumar wrote:
>>
>>        Hello Justin Sir,
>>
>>        Greetings from Pawan
>>        Thanks for your valuable suggestion and reply.
>>        Initially I gave the emtol of 1000 and the output I got was :
>>        Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 163 steps
>>        but did not reach the requested Fmax<1000.
>>        Potential Energy = - 4.4516497e+05
>>
>>
>>    ...and how close did Fmax get to 1000?
>>
>>
>>        Even I tried to minimize the popc bilayer which I took from
>>        Tieleman sir's website ( before generating a bigger bilayer
>>        using genconf ) but that also converged to machine precision but
>>        not to the requested Fmax<1000. How do I proceed further ?
>>
>>
>>    Well, these things are not absolute; Fmax = 1000 is kind of a rule
>>    of thumb that I use in my own work, but sometimes it is not
>>    necessary.  Careful equilibration should massage your system into
>>    cooperating.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        Thanks for your suggestions and help.
>>
>>        Thanking you,
>>        Pawan
>>
>>        On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM,
>>
>>           Pawan Kumar wrote:
>>            > Hello Justin Sir,
>>            >
>>            > Greetings from Pawan
>>            > Thanks for your valuable suggestion and reply.
>>            > After inserting the protein in the bilayer using genbox I
>> have
>>           minimized
>>            > the whole system without using any position restraints
>>        (i.e. define =
>>            > -DFLEXIBLE in em.mdp file). I used vanderwaal's distance
>>        parameter (
>>            > -vdwd of 0.6 ) in the genbox step.
>>            > After running mdrun for energy minimization I got the
>>        output as :
>>            > Steepest Descents converged to Fmax<2250 in 14 steps.
>>            > Potential energy = - 6.9484700e+05
>>            > Maximum force = 2.2114819e+03 on atom 34277
>>            > Norm. of force = 5.0103039e+04
>>            >
>>
>>           You should try for an Fmax of no greater than 1000.  2250 is
>>        still
>>           very high.
>>
>>            > I tried decreasing the emtol value in the em.mdp file but it
>>           ended with
>>            > machine precision.
>>
>>           How far did it converge?  What was Fmax?
>>
>>            > I have read in literature that 5000 steps of Steetest
>>        Descents run is
>>            > required after inserting the protein in the bilayer which
>>        should be
>>            > followed by atleast 1000 steps of conjugate gradients. How
>>        can I
>>            > accomplish this ? Is there any parameter to be given in the
>>           em.mdp file
>>            > ? I use steep as the integrator in the mdp file for energy
>>           minimization.
>>
>>           Read the manual.
>>
>>           Whether or not that exact setup is going to be "required" is
>>        likely
>>           system-specific.  I would say that as long as your system
>>        converges
>>           to a stable,
>>           negative Epot with a reasonable Fmax (less than 1000, but
>> ideally
>>           lower) then
>>           you *may* have an appropriate starting structure.
>>
>>           -Justin
>>
>>            > Please help with some suggestions.
>>            > Thanks in advance.
>>            >
>>            > Thanking you,
>>            > Pawan
>>            >
>>            >
>>            >
>>
>>
>>
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