[gmx-users] Error during NVT equillibration with nvt.log file

ram bio rmbio861 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 20 16:08:12 CEST 2009


Dear Justin,

Thanks.

I tried to equilibrate the system in NVT ensemble without constraints,
the equilibration completed, but the lipid layers moved apart, so i
tried to do simulated annealing procedure mentioned in the trouble
shooting section of the tutorial and here also i was able to
equilibrate only with the constraints = none option in anneal_npt.mdp
file (below).

title		= Simulated Annealing
define		= -DPOSRES -DPOSRES_LIPID
integrator	= md		
dt		= 0.001		
nsteps		= 500000	
continuation	= no	
constraints	= none	
constraint-algorithm = lincs	
lincs-iter	= 1		
lincs-order	= 4		
nstxout		= 1000	
nstvout		= 1000 		
nstfout		= 1000		
nstenergy	= 1000		
nstlist		= 5		
ns_type		= grid 		
rlist		= 1.2
rcoulomb	= 1.2		
rvdw		= 1.2		
coulombtype	= PME   	
pme_order	= 4		
fourierspacing  = 0.16		
Tcoupl	 	= Berendsen		
tc_grps		= Protein DPPC SOL_CL-	
tau_t		= 0.1 	0.1 	0.1	
ref_t		= 323 	323 	323	
Pcoupl		= Berendsen		
Pcoupltype	= semiisotropic		
ref_p		= 1.0 1.0		
compressibility	= 4.5e-5 4.5e-5 	
gen_vel		= no		
pbc		= xyz			
DispCorr	= EnerPres		
nstcomm		= 1
comm-mode	= Linear
comm-grps	= Protein_DPPC SOL_CL-
annealing	= single single single	
annealing_npoints	= 2 2 2		
annealing_time 	= 0 500 0 500 0 500	
annealing_temp	= 0 323 0 323 0 323	

Now as i would like to proceed further, please suggest me how to
confirm that the simulated annealing was proper and also please let me
know can i now go to npt equillibration using the output of simulated
annealing as input to npt equilibration.

Like I am going to use the following command to run the npt equillibration:

grompp -f npt.mdp -c anneal_npt1.gro -t anneal_npt.trr -p topol.top -n
index.ndx -o npt.tpr

Thanks,

Ram




On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>
> ram bio wrote:
>>
>> Dear Justin,
>>
>> Thanks and I tried your suggestion, that is minimizing the system
>> without restraints and increasing the Fmax to 1000, the mdp file used
>> is as follows:
>>
>
> Note that I only suggested EM, not necessarily Fmax < 1000.  You original
> post contained an even lower Fmax, suggesting that you can do better than
> 1000.  The parameters in my tutorial are somewhat generic; you should alter
> them to suit your needs.
>
> <snip>
>
> Please note that the headers of log files are typically unnecessary when
> posting the .mdp file.
>
>> please suggest me is it ok to remove the constraints and run the NVT
>> equillibration.
>>
>
> You can try it, but I doubt it will make a difference.  Your simulation is
> crashing before it is even starting, making it very difficult to diagnose.
>  You probably need to re-build the system, using as rigorous criteria as
> possible during the InflateGRO steps to ensure that you don't have any
> improper atomic overlap.  In my experience, if the simulation is failing at
> step 0, there is no hope for coaxing the system into working.  The
> configuration simply isn't reasonable.
>
> -Justin
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> ram bio wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Gromacs users,
>>>>
>>>> I am doing protein in lipid-bilayer simulation and i am following the
>>>> procedure as per justin tutorial. I am able to insert the protein in
>>>> lipid bilayer and minimize the system as per Inflategro
>>>> procedure,during the total procedure the system was minimized in every
>>>> step.Then, I solvated and ionized sytem and minimized using the
>>>> following mdp file:
>>>>
>>>> ; minim.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate em.tpr
>>>> ; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
>>>> define = -DSTRONG_POSRES
>>>> integrator      = steep         ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent
>>>> minimization)
>>>> emtol           = 500.0         ; Stop minimization when the maximum
>>>> force < 1000.0 kJ/mol/nm
>>>> emstep          = 0.01          ; Energy step size
>>>> nsteps          = 50000         ; Maximum number of (minimization)
>>>> steps to perform
>>>>
>>>> ; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how
>>>> to calculate the interactions
>>>> nstlist         = 1             ; Frequency to update the neighbor
>>>> list and long range forces
>>>> ns_type         = grid          ; Method to determine neighbor list
>>>> (simple, grid)
>>>> rlist           = 1.2           ; Cut-off for making neighbor list
>>>> (short range forces)
>>>> coulombtype     = PME           ; Treatment of long range
>>>> electrostatic interactions
>>>> rcoulomb        = 1.2           ; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
>>>> rvdw            = 1.2           ; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
>>>> pbc             = xyz           ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)
>>>>
>>>> the output was as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 500 in 4770 steps
>>>> Potential Energy  = -3.8820288e+05
>>>> Maximum force     =  4.4803549e+02 on atom 3573
>>>> Norm of force     =  1.7854408e+01
>>>>
>>>> As the potential energy and Fmax values were agreeable , I proceeded
>>>> to equillibrate the system using NVT.
>>>>
>>> Did you minimize the structure without restraints, prior to NVT?
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>         Angle       G96Angle    Proper Dih. Ryckaert-Bell.  Improper
>>>> Dih.
>>>>   2.20077e+04    8.54042e+03    6.78950e+03    4.34650e+03
>>>>  3.03266e+03
>>>>         LJ-14     Coulomb-14        LJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb
>>>> (SR)
>>>>   4.76527e+03    5.50236e+04    8.36617e+06   -2.20019e+03
>>>> -4.46844e+05
>>>>  Coul. recip. Position Rest.      Potential    Kinetic En.   Total
>>>> Energy
>>>>  -1.65524e+05    1.07769e+01    7.85612e+06    5.88813e+10
>>>>  5.88892e+10
>>>>  Conserved En.    Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
>>>>   5.88892e+10    2.23805e+08    1.21713e+09    3.10245e+01
>>>>
>>> In my experience, the combination of an astronomically high temperature
>>> and
>>> a repulsive temperature is indicative of restraining an unrestrainable
>>> starting structure.  Try the EM I suggested above.  Other than that, as
>>> I've
>>> suggested before, see the Advanced Troubleshooting page I created in the
>>> tutorial.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>> Please help me to proceed further and let me know where are the
>>>> mistakes lying and how to overcome them.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Ram
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>>> Justin A. Lemkul
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>>> ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>> Department of Biochemistry
>>> Virginia Tech
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