[gmx-users] molecule index

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Mon Sep 21 02:02:29 CEST 2009



Jamie Seyed wrote:
> Thanks Mark,
> here are the links.
> http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/gromacs/online/water.html
>  
> http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg07653.html
>  
> I tried your advice with 1 water molecule and since it worked I tried it 
> with SOL.ndx, but I got
> D[SOL] -0.0333(+/- 0.0370) 1e-5 cm^2/s
> It seems not reasonable to me (negative and its error is bigger than 
> itself). Any idea?

Probably inadequate sampling, either from the number of frames saved, or from 
the length of the simulation itself.

-Justin

> Thanks in Advance/Jamie
> 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au 
> <mailto:Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
> 
>     Jamie Seyed wrote:
> 
>         Hi Mark,
>         Thanks for the puzzling answer. I tried the index file counting
>         the number of water molecule but I got an error.
>         "Fatal error:
>         The index group does not consist of whole molecules"
> 
> 
>     OK so apparently it wants atom indices for whole molecules. That
>     seems much more plausible to me than David's advice you quoted
>     (please give URLs to such quotes in future, perhaps you took it out
>     of context...)
> 
>     So try giving it atom indices for a whole water molecule as an
>     experiment. Seems like an obvious try to me :-) Then, scale it up if
>     it seems to work.
> 
> 
>         I also did not understand what you pointed out about "One of
>         these sets of numbers is larger than the other" ...
> 
> 
>     One of the set of atom indices in a protein and the set of molecule
>     indices in a solvated protein will have more members than the other.
>     Instead of asking which is right, you might try out a case that will
>     fail under one assumption and work under the other :-) Then perhaps
>     ask a question with some evidence behind it.
> 
> 
>         questions:
>         1) for msd calculation for water molecules, do I need really
>         make index file for all waters,
>         2) What I made (count the water molecules in a [mymolecules]
>         index file), did not work. How I suppose to do make that?
>         3) In getting started-Water page that I found in google it only
>         say "g_msd -n index" and did not explain which index... how
>         about if I use oxygen.ndx file??
> 
> 
>     Provide links, please. We're not going to duplicate your googling.
> 
>     Mark
> 
>         I really appreciate your help. Many Thanks in Advance/Jamie
> 
> 
> 
>          On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Mark Abraham
>         <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au <mailto:Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
>         <mailto:Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au
>         <mailto:Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>>> wrote:
> 
>            Jamie Seyed wrote:
> 
>                Dear all,
>                I want to calculate the msd using g_msd. I have a
>         macromolecule
>                and some (let say 100) water molecules and I want to use
>         msd for
>                water only. from the manual and list I think I need to
>         make an
>                index for molecules (water) and use -mol option.
>                 From David's answer on the list I found
>                -----------------------------------------------------
>                "If you know which molecules they are then you just write
>         in a
>                text editor:
>                [ mymolecules ]
>                3 5 19 23 45 109"
>                ----------------------------------------------------
>                My question is: let say the macromolecule is coming first
>         in the
>                pdb file and then there are water molecules. If I want to
>         make
>                an index for only waters, according to this advice, should I
>                write 2 3 4... 100  (just remove 1 that goes for
>         macromolecule)
>                I am wondering if there is a confliction between these
>                numbers(refer to molecules) and atom numbers of
>                macromolecule.... Would you please clarify this for me??
> 
> 
>            Try it and see. One of these sets of numbers is larger than the
>            other, and if you use a number in that interval you'll either
>         get an
>            error or success, either of which will answer your question.
> 
>            Mark
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