[gmx-users] How to reduce high repulsion from system?

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Fri Apr 30 01:14:00 CEST 2010



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
> 
> Here's an excellent learning experience.
> 
> 1. Simplify the problem: minimize and attempt to equilibrate one single 
> hexane molecule before trying to build your stacked structure.  If the 
> system blows up here, then the topology is likely to blame.  More on 
> this in a few moments.
> 
> 2. Watch the trajectory of the explosion, setting nstxout = 1 if 
> necessary to catch all of the details.  If you do this (with your input 
> files below) you will see hydrogen atoms crashing in on themselves, 
> severe angle distortions, and ultimately, collapse of the system.  I 
> would strongly suggest you do this, for your own education - knowing 
> what to look for is half the battle.
> 
> 3. Consider why this might be happening.  Could x2top have given you a 
> flawed output file?  Quite possibly.  Have a look at your [dihedrals] 
> directive.  Are all possible dihedrals covered?  Clearly not.  Every 
> dihedral (H-C-C-H, C-C-C-C, C-C-C-H) needs to be accounted for in OPLS.  
> You have only 5, when you should have 45 dihedral terms!
> 

I should also add in here that x2top does produce the correct output if one 
employs the -alldih flag (which is off by default).

> Here's how I figured this out.  With a molecule as simple as hexane, 
> writing an .rtp entry is trivial, like so:
> 
> [ HEX ]
>  [ atoms ]
>    CAA  opls_157    -0.180      1
>    HA1  opls_140     0.060      1
>    HA2  opls_140     0.060      1
>    HA3  opls_140     0.060      1
>    CAC  opls_158    -0.120      2
>    HC1  opls_140     0.060      2
>    HC2  opls_140     0.060      2
>    CAE  opls_158    -0.120      3
>    HE1  opls_140     0.060      3
>    HE2  opls_140     0.060      3
>    CAF  opls_158    -0.120      4
>    HF1  opls_140     0.060      4
>    HF2  opls_140     0.060      4
>    CAD  opls_158    -0.120      5
>    HD1  opls_140     0.060      5
>    HD2  opls_140     0.060      5
>    CAB  opls_157    -0.180      6
>    HB1  opls_140     0.060      6
>    HB2  opls_140     0.060      6
>    HB3  opls_140     0.060      6
>  [ bonds ]
>    CAA  HA1
>    CAA  HA2
>    CAA  HA3
>    CAA  CAC
>    CAC  HC1
>    CAC  HC2
>    CAC  CAE
>    CAE  HE1
>    CAE  HE2
>    CAE  CAF
>    CAF  HF1
>    CAF  HF2
>    CAF  CAD
>    CAD  HD1
>    CAD  HD2
>    CAD  CAB
>    CAB  HB1
>    CAB  HB2
>    CAB  HB3
> 
> (in conjunction with the following .pdb file):
> 
> HETATM    1  CAA HEX     1       8.330   1.510  -0.010  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM    2  HA1 HEX     1       9.281   1.200  -0.024  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM    3  HA2 HEX     1       8.154   2.080  -0.813  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM    4  HA3 HEX     1       8.166   2.044   0.820  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM    5  CAC HEX     1       7.400   0.300  -0.030  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM    6  HC1 HEX     1       7.584  -0.267   0.773  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM    7  HC2 HEX     1       7.573  -0.231  -0.860  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM    8  CAE HEX     1       5.940   0.730  -0.010  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM    9  HE1 HEX     1       5.754   1.291  -0.816  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   10  HE2 HEX     1       5.769   1.266   0.817  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   11  CAF HEX     1       5.010  -0.480  -0.020  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM   12  HF1 HEX     1       5.192  -1.038   0.790  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   13  HF2 HEX     1       5.186  -1.020  -0.843  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   14  CAD HEX     1       3.540  -0.050  -0.010  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM   15  HD1 HEX     1       3.357   0.507  -0.820  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   16  HD2 HEX     1       3.363   0.489   0.813  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   17  CAB HEX     1       2.610  -1.270  -0.020  1.00 
> 20.00             C
> HETATM   18  HB1 HEX     1       1.658  -0.964  -0.013  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   19  HB2 HEX     1       2.780  -1.812  -0.843  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> HETATM   20  HB3 HEX     1       2.785  -1.830   0.790  1.00 
> 20.00             H
> 
> Then let pdb2gmx do the hard work for you.  It will write all the 
> necessary bonded terms, simply by specifying the bonds.
> 
> Energy minimization still yields a positive potential, but it is quite 
> low.  In this case, that's alright, since there are numerous unsatisfied 
> hydrophobic interactions that will likely be satisfied once there are a 
> few other hexane molecules around.  Equilibration works just fine after 
> that, although I would seriously recommend *against* using cutoff 
> electrostatics.  The artefacts are well-established.
> 
> Hopefully this has given you (and others who may come upon this post) 
> some insight into how to effectively diagnose problems like this one.  
> With more complex molecules, writing .rtp entries is not so trivial, but 
> parameterization in general is a very advanced concept.  Knowing what 
> the force field requires is the biggest battle of all.
> 
> -Justin
> 
> Moeed wrote:
>> Dear experts,
>>
>> Could you please take a look at energy values. The system contains 
>> only stack of hexane molecules. MD sun gives lincs warning.
>>
>> 1- How can I get rid of high repulsive potential?
>>
>> *genconf_d -f Hexane.gro -nbox 4.0 8.0 8.0 -dist 1.1 0.55 0.55 -o 
>> Hexane-stack.gro*
>>
>>
>> ********------------------------*************************************************************************** 
>>
>> energy minimization
>> my output.mdrun_em:
>>
>> Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 1000 in 30 steps
>> Potential Energy  =  4.76092783832156e+05
>> Maximum force     =  9.86600079729483e+02 on atom 3115
>> Norm of force     =  5.33725886931530e+02
>> ********************************************************************************************************* 
>>
>> g_energy file:
>>
>> Statistics over 61 steps [ 0.0000 thru 0.1200 ps ], 12 data sets
>> All averages are exact over 61 steps
>>
>> Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.      Drift  
>> Tot-Drift
>> ------------------------------
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Angle                       78416.5    38731.2    25083.3     
>> 838187     102231
>> LJ-14                    1.16009e+08 8.87401e+08 8.87401e+08 
>> 3.06025e+06     373250
>> Coulomb-14                  734.065    480.683    140.481    
>> 13056.3    1592.44
>> LJ (SR)                     5482.29    5991.07    4445.16     
>> 114080    13914.1
>> Coulomb (SR)                1711.47    732.288    228.708     -19758   
>> -2409.83
>> Potential                1.16326e+08 8.8739e+08 8.8739e+08     
>> 921124     112347
>> Kinetic En.              1.77327e+18 5.4851e+18 4.28286e+18 
>> 9.73294e+19 1.1871e+19
>> Total Energy             1.77327e+18 5.4851e+18 4.28286e+18 
>> 9.73294e+19 1.1871e+19
>> Temperature              4.06507e+16 1.25741e+17 9.81811e+16 
>> 2.2312e+18 2.72133e+17
>> Pressure (bar)           1.48406e+15 4.59052e+15 3.58436e+15 
>> 8.14557e+16 9.93493e+15
>> T-HEX                    4.06507e+16 1.25741e+17 9.81811e+16 
>> 2.2312e+18 2.72133e+17
>> Lamb-HEX                    0.99144 0.00206848          0 -0.0617392 
>> -0.00753016
>> Heat Capacity Cv:    -0.934076 J/mol K (factor = 9.56799)
>>
>> ***************                       
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> title               = Hexane
>> cpp                 = /lib/cpp
>>
>> ;        Run control
>> integrator          =  md
>> dt                  =  0.002        ; ps !
>> nsteps              =  5000        ; total 1.0 ps.
>> nstcomm             =  1        ; frequency for center of mass motion 
>> removal  
>> ;        Output control
>> nstenergy           =  10        ; frequency to write energies to 
>> energy file. i.e., energies and other statistical data are stored 
>> every 10 steps
>> nstxout             =  10        ; frequency to write 
>> coordinates/velocity/force to output trajectory file
>> nstvout             =  0
>> nstfout             =  10
>> nstlog              =  10        ; frequency to write energies to log 
>> file
>>
>> ;        Neighbor searching
>> nstlist             =  10        ; neighborlist will be updated at 
>> least every 10 steps ;ns_type             =  grid
>>
>> ;        Electrostatics/VdW
>> coulombtype         =  cut-off
>> vdw-type            =  cut-off
>> ;        Cut-offs
>> rlist               =  1.0
>> rcoulomb            =  1.0
>> rvdw                =  1.0
>>
>> ;        Temperature coupling    Berendsen temperature coupling is on 
>> in two groups
>> Tcoupl              =  berendsen
>> tc-grps             =  HEX      ;sol
>> tau_t               =  0.1      ;0.1
>> ref_t               =  300      ;300
>>
>> ;        Pressure coupling:     Pressure coupling is not on
>> Pcoupl              =  no
>> tau_p               =  0.5
>> compressibility     =  4.5e-5
>> ref_p               =  1.0
>>
>> ;        Velocity generation    Generate velocites is on at 300 K. 
>> Manual p155
>> gen_vel             =  yes
>> gen_temp            =  300.0
>> gen_seed            =  173529
>>
>> ;        Bonds
>> constraints         =  all-bonds
>> constraint-algorithm = lincs
>>
>> pbc=xyz
>>
>> **************************************************************************************** 
>>
>> ;
>> ;    File 'Hexane.top' was generated
>> ;    By user: moeed (500)
>> ;    On host: moeed-desktop
>> ;    At date: Thu Apr  8 13:51:19 2010
>> ;
>> ;    This is your include topology file
>> ;    Generated by x2top
>> ;
>> ; Include forcefield parameters
>> #include "ffoplsaa.itp"
>>
>> [ moleculetype ]
>> ; Name            nrexcl
>> HEX                 3
>>
>> [ atoms ]
>> ;   nr       type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr     charge       mass  
>> typeB    chargeB      massB
>>      1   opls_157      1   HEX      C1      1      -0.18     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.18
>>      2   opls_158      1   HEX      C2      2      -0.12     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.3
>>      3   opls_158      1   HEX      C3      3      -0.12     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.42
>>      4   opls_158      1   HEX      C4      4      -0.12     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.54
>>      5   opls_158      1   HEX      C5      5      -0.12     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.66
>>      6   opls_157      1   HEX      C6      6      -0.18     12.011   
>> ; qtot -0.84
>>      7   opls_140      1   HEX      H1      6       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.78
>>      8   opls_140      1   HEX      H2      6       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.72
>>      9   opls_140      1   HEX      H3      6       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.66
>>     10   opls_140      1   HEX      H4      5       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.6
>>     11   opls_140      1   HEX      H5      5       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.54
>>     12   opls_140      1   HEX      H6      4       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.48
>>     13   opls_140      1   HEX      H7      4       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.42
>>     14   opls_140      1   HEX      H8      3       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.36
>>     15   opls_140      1   HEX      H9      3       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.3
>>     16   opls_140      1   HEX     H10      2       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.24
>>     17   opls_140      1   HEX     H11      2       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.18
>>     18   opls_140      1   HEX     H12      1       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.12
>>     19   opls_140      1   HEX     H13      1       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot -0.06
>>     20   opls_140      1   HEX     H14      1       0.06      1.008   
>> ; qtot 0
>>
>> [ bonds ]
>> ;  ai    aj funct            c0            c1            c2            c3
>>     1     2     1  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     1    18     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     1    19     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     1    20     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     2     3     1  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     2    16     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     2    17     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     3     4     1  1.540000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.540000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     3    14     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     3    15     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     4     5     1  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     4    12     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     4    13     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     5     6     1  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.530000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     5    10     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     5    11     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     6     7     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     6     8     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>     6     9     1  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05  1.090000e-01  4.000000e+05
>>
>> [ pairs ]
>> ;  ai    aj funct            c0            c1            c2            c3
>>     1     4     1
>>     1    14     1
>>     1    15     1
>>     2     5     1
>>     2    12     1
>>     2    13     1
>>     3     6     1
>>     3    10     1
>>     3    11     1
>>     3    18     1
>>     3    19     1
>>     3    20     1
>>     4     7     1
>>     4     8     1
>>     4     9     1
>>     4    16     1
>>     4    17     1
>>     5    14     1
>>     5    15     1
>>     6    12     1
>>     6    13     1
>>     7    10     1
>>     7    11     1
>>     8    10     1
>>     8    11     1
>>     9    10     1
>>     9    11     1
>>    10    12     1
>>    10    13     1
>>    11    12     1
>>    11    13     1
>>    12    14     1
>>    12    15     1
>>    13    14     1
>>    13    15     1
>>    14    16     1
>>    14    17     1
>>    15    16     1
>>    15    17     1
>>    16    18     1
>>    16    19     1
>>    16    20     1
>>    17    18     1
>>    17    19     1
>>    17    20     1
>>
>> [ angles ]
>> ;  ai    aj    ak funct            c0            c1            
>> c2            c3
>>     2     1    18     1  1.120000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.120000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     2     1    19     1  1.110000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.110000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     2     1    20     1  1.110000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.110000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    18     1    19     1  1.070000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.070000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    18     1    20     1  1.070000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.070000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    19     1    20     1  1.080000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.080000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     1     2     3     1  1.130000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.130000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     1     2    16     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     1     2    17     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     3     2    16     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     3     2    17     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    16     2    17     1  1.060000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.060000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     2     3     4     1  1.130000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.130000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     2     3    14     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     2     3    15     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     4     3    14     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     4     3    15     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    14     3    15     1  1.060000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.060000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     3     4     5     1  1.130000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.130000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     3     4    12     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     3     4    13     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     5     4    12     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     5     4    13     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    12     4    13     1  1.060000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.060000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     4     5     6     1  1.130000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.130000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     4     5    10     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     4     5    11     1  1.100000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.100000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     6     5    10     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     6     5    11     1  1.090000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.090000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>    10     5    11     1  1.060000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.060000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     5     6     7     1  1.110000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.110000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     5     6     8     1  1.110000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.110000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     5     6     9     1  1.120000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.120000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     7     6     8     1  1.080000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.080000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     7     6     9     1  1.070000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.070000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>     8     6     9     1  1.070000e+02  4.000000e+02  1.070000e+02  
>> 4.000000e+02
>>
>> [ dihedrals ]
>> ;  ai    aj    ak    al funct            c0            c1            
>> c2            c3            c4            c5
>>    18     1     2     3     3  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  
>> 3.000000e+00  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  3.000000e+00
>>     1     2     3     4     3  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  
>> 3.000000e+00  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  3.000000e+00
>>     2     3     4     5     3  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  
>> 3.000000e+00  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  3.000000e+00
>>     3     4     5     6     3  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  
>> 3.000000e+00  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  3.000000e+00
>>     4     5     6     7     3  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  
>> 3.000000e+00  3.600000e+02  5.000000e+00  3.000000e+00
>>
>> [ system ]
>> ; Name
>> HEX
>>
>> [ molecules ]
>> ; Compound        #mols
>> HEX                 256
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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