[gmx-users] carbohydrate parameters in ffG53a6

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Sat Aug 28 20:11:34 CEST 2010



Rasoul wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Rasoul wrote:
> 
>         For the sugar parameters you can use Glycam parameters
>          http://glycam.ccrc.uga.edu/documents/gl_params.jsp
>         After with specific script it can be convert to Gromac readable
>         file:
>         http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Download_%26_Installation/User_contributions/Other_software
> 
> 
>     Mixing and matching force field parameters is a very bad idea.  To
>     have a valid
>     physical model, parameters should be derived in compatible ways.
> 
> It has good consistency with Amber FF :J Comput Chem 29: 622–655, 2008.
> 

That's exactly what it was designed to do, which I don't question.  But the OP 
was attempting to develop united-atom parameters for use with Gromos96 53A6. 
For clarity, I pointed out that mixing GLYCAM and 53A6 is an incorrect notion.

-Justin

>     -Justin
> 
> Rasoul
> 
>         I hope it would be useful for you.
> 
>         Rasoul
>         On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>         <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>         <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>            Jianhui Tian wrote:
> 
>                Hi Parichita,
> 
>                Thanks for the suggestion. However, the question is what
>                parameters from ffG53a6 can be used for not included
>         sugars or
>                glycolipid. I guess you can not simply use the charge,
>         angle and
>                dihedral values based on the atom types from 53a6.
> 
> 
>            Gromos building blocks are quite transferable between different
>            molecules. Compare a few sugars - the parameters are nearly
>            identical.  That is one of the central features of this
>         particular
>            force field, that functional group charges should be as
>         versatile as
>            possible.
> 
>            As for the lipids, there are new versions of 53A6 (which I
>         believe
>            have been uploaded to the Gromacs site) that perform
>         substantially
>            better than the built-in parameters.  The long acyl chains
>         are not
>            particularly accurate in the default 53A6.
> 
>            -Justin
> 
>                Jianhui
> 
>                Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:18:49 +0530 (IST)
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>                Hi Jianhui,
>                 For your sugar part you can use PRODRG, which will convert
>                coordinates for small molecules in PDB format (or simple text
>                structures) to the following topology formats: GROMOS,
>         GROMACS
>                and  from literature if you can find out the parameters of
>                ffG53a6 force field,  then you can correct the charge,
>         angle and
>                dihedral values that you are collected from the PRODRG. Hope
>                this will help you.
>                Regards...
>                Parichita...........
> 
> 
>                         Parichita Mazumder Research Fellow
>                C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhayay
>                Department of Chemistry
>                University of Calcutta
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>                --- On Wed, 18/8/10, Jianhui Tian <jianhuitian at gmail.com
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>                From: Jianhui Tian <jianhuitian at gmail.com
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>                Subject: [gmx-users] carbohydrate parameters in ffG53a6
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>                Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 10:16 AM
> 
> 
>                Hi,
> 
>                I want to do some simulations about carbohydrates and
>                glycolipid. In the ffG53a6.rtp file, I just see limited
>                parameters for carbohydrate, like monosaccharide Glucose,
>                Mannose and Galactose. What parameters can be used for others
>                like arabinose? Also, is there any parameters available
>         in the
>                Gromacs force field for glycolipid?
> 
>                Jianhui
> 
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Justin A. Lemkul
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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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