SV: [gmx-users] Order parameter for unsaturated lipid chain in UAmodel
Sarah Witzke
sawit02 at student.sdu.dk
Thu Feb 25 14:51:27 CET 2010
Thank you for your quick respons! It is not so much the drop, but more the position and the prescens of a small drop, then a little rise and then the big drop. I have pasted the file in below.
Do you think my method of replacing the order parameters for the double bonded atoms is ok?
****************Order parameters sn-2 chain POPC*********
1 0.176177
2 0.18184
3 0.182874
4 0.180724
5 0.167932
6 0.162731
7 0.107512
8 0.139351
9 0.0311607
10 0.0519802
11 0.095191
12 0.0884555
13 0.0930531
14 0.0787042
15 0.0732823
16 0.0541174
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Thank you, Sarah
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Fra: gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org på vegne af Justin A. Lemkul
Sendt: to 25-02-2010 14:42
Til: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Emne: Re: [gmx-users] Order parameter for unsaturated lipid chain in UAmodel
Sarah Witzke wrote:
> Dear gmx users,
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> I am sorry to ask this question again, but reading in the email achieve did not enlighten me. I found this email which describes my problem, but unfortunately it has no replies:
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> http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-July/034950.html
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> Also there are these two recently emails: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-January/047767.html <http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-January/047767.html> , but I am still in doubt.
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> So my question is regarding the unsaturated lipid chain of POPC. I would like to calculate the order parameters for my united atoms so I make first an index file with the tail atoms from the carbonyl-C to the methyl-C and then I run g_order -od. Then I make a new index file with the two atoms of the double bond and the atom before and after the double bond (four atoms in total) running g_order -unsat -od
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> I then take the two values from the last g_order run and replace them with the order parameters for the double bond calculated without -unsat. When looking at the graph and comparing to the literature this graph it looks wrong: First there is a small dip in the order for the atom before the double bond, then it goes a bit up for the first double bonded C, and then for the next double bonded C and the atom after that the order is quite low. I know this description is not good, but it was just to explain, that the graph is not as expected.
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> I would very much appreciated if anyone could tell me, where I go wrong.
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I don't see why a drop in the order parameter is unexpected. I see it all the
time in published papers of unsaturated lipids, for example:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp902131b
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/114209721/abstract
-Justin
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> Thank you,
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> Sarah
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