[gmx-users] Capping residues

Sai Pooja saipooja at gmail.com
Wed Jul 7 22:29:03 CEST 2010


I checked again and the error does not go. Please read the steps below.

The pdb file I started off with did not have any hydrogens. However, the way
I had specified the capping residues in the .rtp file (SEE MARK'S MAIL), I
had to specify hydrogens in the pdb file for the capping residues. So I used
pymol to add hydrogens to my pdb file. I then used this file with charmm
force field. However, pymol had added hydrogens everywhere and this was
different from the definition of the standard residues defined in the .rtp
file. I could not directly use -ignh because I needed the hydrogens for the
capping residues. So I created a file that contained the hydrogens on the
capping residues only. This resolved the error related to hydrogens.


Error-from previous mail-NOT RESOLVED
(Fatal error:
   There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends.
   Select a proper terminal entry.
   For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
   GROMACS
    I have used Mark's definitions for capping residues in the rtp file.

   In the pdb file, this is what the capping residues look like:

   ATOM     33  N   CBX     5       8.609   2.722  18.430  1.00  1.60
  FR1
   ATOM     34  H   CBX     5       9.198   3.338  17.946  1.00  0.80
  FR1
   ATOM     35 CH3  CBX     5       7.176   2.594  17.895  1.00  2.17
  FR1

   ATOM      1  CH3 ACE     1      12.782  -0.027  28.022  1.00  2.17
  FR1
   ATOM      2  C   ACE     1      12.532  -0.094  26.546  1.00  2.10
  FR1
   ATOM      3  O   ACE     1      13.443  -0.213  25.696  1.00  1.60
  FR1 )

The error stated in the previous mail(quoted above) occurred when I chose
"none" for the both terminals or the carboxylic terminal option (using
-ter). It worked fine if I chose "none" at the N terminal and any other
option except "none" at the carboxylic acid terminal.
So I chose "none" at N terminal and some option randomly at the carboxylic
acid terminal. As expected, it adds a terminal at that end of the residue
before my capping residue which is something I DONT want. I havent been able
to find a way around it. Interestingly, when I generate a pdb file using -q,
and open that pdb file in pymol, I dont get the terminal carboxylic acid
that pdb2gmx gives in the .gro file.

I am not sure how to correct this. One way would be to remove those entries
from the final .gro and .top file but not sure if that would be right.

Pooja






On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Sai Pooja wrote:
>
>> Follow-up. It is easy to make it work. Just needed to be more rigorous.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
> It would be helpful if you describe what you mean.  This error message is
> new to me, and appears to reflect new mechanics in the upcoming Gromacs
> release.  If you describe what the problem was, how you resolved it, what
> your pdb2gmx command line was, and anything else that might be useful, that
> would likely help others solve this issue in the future.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Sai Pooja <saipooja at gmail.com <mailto:
>> saipooja at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    I used -ter option and selected "none" for both terminal ends but I
>>    still get this error:
>>
>>    Fatal error:
>>    There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends.
>>    Select a proper terminal entry.
>>    For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
>>    GROMACS
>>     I have used Mark's definitions for capping residues in the rtp file.
>>
>>    In the pdb file, this is what the capping residues look like:
>>
>>    ATOM     33  N   CBX     5       8.609   2.722  18.430  1.00  1.60
>>     FR1
>>    ATOM     34  H   CBX     5       9.198   3.338  17.946  1.00  0.80
>>     FR1
>>    ATOM     35 CH3  CBX     5       7.176   2.594  17.895  1.00  2.17
>>     FR1
>>
>>    ATOM      1  CH3 ACE     1      12.782  -0.027  28.022  1.00  2.17
>>     FR1
>>    ATOM      2  C   ACE     1      12.532  -0.094  26.546  1.00  2.10
>>     FR1
>>    ATOM      3  O   ACE     1      13.443  -0.213  25.696  1.00  1.60
>>     FR1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>>    <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>        Sai Pooja wrote:
>>
>>            Thanks Marks. I tried it but this is what I get:
>>
>>            Fatal error:
>>            atom N not found in buiding block 1ACE while combining tdb
>>            and rtp
>>            For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
>>            check the GROMACS
>>            website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>>
>>            Do I need to edit the aminoacids.n.tdb file as well?
>>
>>
>>        What are you choosing as your termini when running pdb2gmx?  It
>>        should be "none," since by capping, you are not choosing a
>>        protonation state for the N- and C-termini.
>>
>>        -Justin
>>
>>
>>            Pooja
>>
>>
>>
>>            On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mark Abraham
>>            <mark.abraham at anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
>>            <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>>            <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>               ----- Original Message -----
>>               From: Sai Pooja <saipooja at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com> <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com>>>
>>               Date: Friday, July 2, 2010 7:28
>>               Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Capping residues
>>               To: jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>            <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>,
>>            Discussion list for
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>>            <mailto:gmx-users at gromacs.org>>>
>>
>>                > I am sorry if I did not frame the question correctly,
>>            but putting
>>               it very simply, is there a way to use capping residues
>>            with the
>>               charmm forcefield if the residues are --COCH3 and NHCH3?
>>
>>               Yes - you edit a copy of the .rtp file in your working
>>            directory and
>>               add whatever you want. Here's what I use in CHARMM
>>
>>               [ ACE ]
>>                [ atoms ]
>>                       CH3     CT3     -0.270  0
>>                       HH31    HA      0.090   0
>>                       HH32    HA      0.090   0
>>                       HH33    HA      0.090   0
>>                       C       C       0.510   1
>>                       O       O       -0.510  1
>>                [ bonds ]
>>                       C       CH3
>>                       C       +N
>>                       CH3     HH31
>>                       CH3     HH32
>>                       CH3     HH33
>>                       O       C
>>                [ impropers ]
>>                       C       CH3     +N      O
>>
>>               [ NAC ]
>>                [ atoms ]
>>                      N       NH1     -0.470  1
>>                      HN      H       0.310   1
>>                      CH3     CT3     -0.110  1
>>                      HH31    HA      0.090   1
>>                      HH32    HA      0.090   1
>>                      HH33    HA      0.090   1
>>                [ bonds ]
>>                      -C      N
>>                      N       HN
>>                      N       CH3
>>                      CH3     HH31
>>                      CH3     HH32
>>                      CH3     HH33
>>
>>                [ impropers ]
>>                      N       -C      CH3     HN
>>                      -C      CH3     N       -O
>>
>>               Mark
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