[gmx-users] Capping residues

Sai Pooja saipooja at gmail.com
Thu Jul 8 00:32:09 CEST 2010


This probably is my ignorance but the error and the "bug" goes when I
replaced CBX with NAC everywhere.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Sai Pooja wrote:
>
>> I checked again and the error does not go. Please read the steps below.
>>
>> The pdb file I started off with did not have any hydrogens. However, the
>> way I had specified the capping residues in the .rtp file (SEE MARK'S MAIL),
>> I had to specify hydrogens in the pdb file for the capping residues. So I
>> used pymol to add hydrogens to my pdb file. I then used this file with
>> charmm force field. However, pymol had added hydrogens everywhere and this
>> was different from the definition of the standard residues defined in the
>> .rtp file. I could not directly use -ignh because I needed the hydrogens for
>> the capping residues. So I created a file that contained the hydrogens on
>> the capping residues only. This resolved the error related to hydrogens.
>>
>>
> Probably an easier and more reliable approach would simply be to create an
> .hdb entry for your capping groups.
>
>
>
>> Error-from previous mail-NOT RESOLVED
>> (Fatal error:
>>   There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends.
>>   Select a proper terminal entry.
>>   For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
>>   GROMACS
>>    I have used Mark's definitions for capping residues in the rtp file.
>>
>>   In the pdb file, this is what the capping residues look like:
>>
>>   ATOM     33  N   CBX     5       8.609   2.722  18.430  1.00  1.60
>>   FR1
>>   ATOM     34  H   CBX     5       9.198   3.338  17.946  1.00  0.80
>>   FR1
>>   ATOM     35 CH3  CBX     5       7.176   2.594  17.895  1.00  2.17
>>   FR1
>>
>>
> Maybe this is just showing up incorrectly in my mail client, but I wonder
> if that CH3 is somehow misaligned and therefore not correctly identified.  I
> presume that you changed the residue name in the .rtp file accordingly?  I
> suppose the error message would be different (something like "residue not
> found") but I just want to make sure.  Mark's entry used NAC.
>
>
>    ATOM      1  CH3 ACE     1      12.782  -0.027  28.022  1.00  2.17
>>   FR1
>>   ATOM      2  C   ACE     1      12.532  -0.094  26.546  1.00  2.10
>>   FR1
>>   ATOM      3  O   ACE     1      13.443  -0.213  25.696  1.00  1.60
>>   FR1 )
>>
>> The error stated in the previous mail(quoted above) occurred when I chose
>> "none" for the both terminals or the carboxylic terminal option (using
>> -ter). It worked fine if I chose "none" at the N terminal and any other
>> option except "none" at the carboxylic acid terminal. So I chose "none" at N
>> terminal and some option randomly at the carboxylic acid terminal. As
>> expected, it adds a terminal at that end of the residue before my capping
>> residue which is something I DONT want. I
>>
>
> So does pdb2gmx somehow add the C-terminal cap after the carboxylate
> terminus?
>
>
>  havent been able to find a way around it. Interestingly, when I generate a
>> pdb file using -q, and open that pdb file in pymol, I dont get the terminal
>> carboxylic acid that pdb2gmx gives in the .gro file.
>>
>
> So the cap is applied properly in that structure?
>
>
>  I am not sure how to correct this. One way would be to remove those
>> entries from the final .gro and .top file but not sure if that would be
>> right.
>>
>>
> This all sounds very fishy.  This may be worth a bugzilla entry, but only
> if you can build the structure in a very sound way, probably using .hdb
> entries (or an appropriate all-atom structure, which you've yet to
> demonstrate).
>
> -Justin
>
>  Pooja
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sai Pooja wrote:
>>
>>        Follow-up. It is easy to make it work. Just needed to be more
>>        rigorous. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>    It would be helpful if you describe what you mean.  This error
>>    message is new to me, and appears to reflect new mechanics in the
>>    upcoming Gromacs release.  If you describe what the problem was, how
>>    you resolved it, what your pdb2gmx command line was, and anything
>>    else that might be useful, that would likely help others solve this
>>    issue in the future.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Sai Pooja <saipooja at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com> <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com
>>
>>        <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>           I used -ter option and selected "none" for both terminal ends
>>        but I
>>           still get this error:
>>
>>           Fatal error:
>>           There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends.
>>           Select a proper terminal entry.
>>           For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
>>        check the
>>           GROMACS
>>            I have used Mark's definitions for capping residues in the
>>        rtp file.
>>
>>           In the pdb file, this is what the capping residues look like:
>>
>>           ATOM     33  N   CBX     5       8.609   2.722  18.430  1.00
>>         1.60         FR1
>>           ATOM     34  H   CBX     5       9.198   3.338  17.946  1.00
>>         0.80         FR1
>>           ATOM     35 CH3  CBX     5       7.176   2.594  17.895  1.00
>>         2.17         FR1
>>
>>           ATOM      1  CH3 ACE     1      12.782  -0.027  28.022  1.00
>>         2.17         FR1
>>           ATOM      2  C   ACE     1      12.532  -0.094  26.546  1.00
>>         2.10         FR1
>>           ATOM      3  O   ACE     1      13.443  -0.213  25.696  1.00
>>         1.60         FR1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>           On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>        <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>           <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>               Sai Pooja wrote:
>>
>>                   Thanks Marks. I tried it but this is what I get:
>>
>>                   Fatal error:
>>                   atom N not found in buiding block 1ACE while
>>        combining tdb
>>                   and rtp
>>                   For more information and tips for troubleshooting,
>> please
>>                   check the GROMACS
>>                   website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>>
>>                   Do I need to edit the aminoacids.n.tdb file as well?
>>
>>
>>               What are you choosing as your termini when running
>>        pdb2gmx?  It
>>               should be "none," since by capping, you are not choosing a
>>               protonation state for the N- and C-termini.
>>
>>               -Justin
>>
>>
>>                   Pooja
>>
>>
>>
>>                   On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mark Abraham
>>                   <mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>>        <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au> <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>>        <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>>
>>                   <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>>        <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
>>                   <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>>        <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>                      ----- Original Message -----
>>                      From: Sai Pooja <saipooja at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com>
>>                   <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com>> <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com>
>>                   <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com <mailto:saipooja at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>>                      Date: Friday, July 2, 2010 7:28
>>                      Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Capping residues
>>                      To: jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>        <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>
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>>                       > I am sorry if I did not frame the question
>>        correctly,
>>                   but putting
>>                      it very simply, is there a way to use capping
>> residues
>>                   with the
>>                      charmm forcefield if the residues are --COCH3 and
>>        NHCH3?
>>
>>                      Yes - you edit a copy of the .rtp file in your
>> working
>>                   directory and
>>                      add whatever you want. Here's what I use in CHARMM
>>
>>                      [ ACE ]
>>                       [ atoms ]
>>                              CH3     CT3     -0.270  0
>>                              HH31    HA      0.090   0
>>                              HH32    HA      0.090   0
>>                              HH33    HA      0.090   0
>>                              C       C       0.510   1
>>                              O       O       -0.510  1
>>                       [ bonds ]
>>                              C       CH3
>>                              C       +N
>>                              CH3     HH31
>>                              CH3     HH32
>>                              CH3     HH33
>>                              O       C
>>                       [ impropers ]
>>                              C       CH3     +N      O
>>
>>                      [ NAC ]
>>                       [ atoms ]
>>                             N       NH1     -0.470  1
>>                             HN      H       0.310   1
>>                             CH3     CT3     -0.110  1
>>                             HH31    HA      0.090   1
>>                             HH32    HA      0.090   1
>>                             HH33    HA      0.090   1
>>                       [ bonds ]
>>                             -C      N
>>                             N       HN
>>                             N       CH3
>>                             CH3     HH31
>>                             CH3     HH32
>>                             CH3     HH33
>>
>>                       [ impropers ]
>>                             N       -C      CH3     HN
>>                             -C      CH3     N       -O
>>
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