[gmx-users] Semiisotropic Pressure coupling with PR

Sai Pooja saipooja at gmail.com
Thu Jul 15 16:00:40 CEST 2010


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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Sai Pooja wrote:
>
>> Reply inline...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sai Pooja wrote:
>>
>>        Hi,
>>
>>        I have a system of 3600 LJ particles in a plane (using
>>        freeze-dimension option in z). I am running npt runs using
>>        Semi-isotropic pressure coupling with Parrinello-Rahman
>>        barostat. I have a few concerns:
>>
>>        1) On the gromacs website, a webpage mentions that this type of
>>        pressure coupling may not be accurate
>>
>>
>>    Please provide a link when making this kind of statement.
>>
>> http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Developer_Zone/Programming_Guide/Barostat&highlight=parrinello-rahman
>>    <
>> http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Developer_Zone/Programming_Guide/Barostat&highlight=parrinello-rahman
>> >
>>
>
> Bugzilla entry 14 is ancient, and has long since been resolved:
>
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/About_Gromacs/Release_Notes/Revisions_in_4.0#Resolved_issues
>
>
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>>        2) It takes a really long time for the system to reach the
>>        reference pressure  > 500ns. Particularly the Pxx, Pyy terms are
>>        very different and take an extremely long time to converge to a
>>        common value.
>>
>>    integrator               = md
>>    dt                       = 0.001
>>    nsteps                   = 50000000
>>
>>    ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
>>    nstxout                  = 0  ; No output, except for last frame
>>    (coordinates)
>>    nstvout                  = 0    ; No output, except for last frame
>>    (velocities)
>>    nstfout                  = 0    ; No output, except for last frame
>>    (forces)
>>    nstlog                   = 1000000   ; Write every nth step to the log
>>    nstenergy                = 1000000     ; Write energies at every n step
>>    nstxtcout                = 1000000     ; Do not write a compressed tr
>>
>>    ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
>>    nstlist                  = 10
>>    ns-type                  = Grid
>>    pbc                      = xyz
>>    rlist                    = 0.9
>>
>>    ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
>>    coulombtype              = Cut-off
>>    rcoulomb                 = 1.1225
>>    vdw-type                 = User
>>    rvdw                     = 1.1225
>>    table-extension          = 0
>>
>>    ; Temperature coupling
>>    tcoupl                   = nose-hoover
>>    tc-grps                  = ARAR
>>    tau_t                    = 0.1
>>    ref_t                    = 120.2717
>>
>>    ; Pressure coupling
>>    pcoupl                   = Parrinello-Rahman
>>    pcoupltype               = semiisotropic
>>    tau-p                    = 1.0  1.0
>>    compressibility          = 1e-5  0   ;Dont know
>>    ref-p                    = 69 0
>>
>>
>>    ;Generate velocities for startup run
>>    gen_vel                  =no
>>    gen_temp                 =120.2717
>>    gen_seed                 =-1
>>
>> ;Non equilibrium MD steps
>> freezegrps              =ARAR
>> freezedim               =N N Y
>> ;Constraints
>> constraints             = all-bonds
>> constraint_algorithm    = Lincs
>> lincs_order             = 4
>> lincs_iter              = 1
>> lincs_warnangle         = 90  ;unconstrained_start    = no
>> ;shake_tol              = 0.0001
>>
>>
> Do you run any equilibration prior to applying these parameters?  Both N-H
> and P-R allow for wide fluctuations in temperature and pressure,
> respectively, which are exacerbated by systems that are not sufficiently
> equilibrated.  Hence it could take a very long time if you do not
> equilibrate well using, i.e. a weak coupling scheme first.
>
>
I usually start with a pressure nearby. For example, I start with a system
which was equilibrated at p=71 and then run npt at p=69. Is that not
sufficient?

Pooja


> -Justin
>
>
>>
>>
>>    What was your equilibration protocol?  What are your .mdp settings?
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>
>>        Pooja
>>
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