[gmx-users] Charge grps and cut-off

Sai Pooja saipooja at gmail.com
Sat Jul 17 13:22:43 CEST 2010


Hi,

This is the .mdp file that produces notes-3 and 4. However, the previous md
file produces note-3.

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator               = md
dt                       = 0.002
nsteps                   = 5000000

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout                  = 0                    ; No output, except for last
frame (coordinates)
nstvout                  = 0                    ; No output, except for last
frame (velocities)
nstfout                  = 0                    ; No output, except for last
frame (forces)
nstlog                   = 500000                ; Write every step to the
log
nstenergy                = 500000                    ; Write energies at
every step
xtc_grps                 = Protein
nstxtcout                = 500000                    ; Do not write a
compressed trajectory
energygrps               = Protein Non-Protein  ; Write energy information
separately for these groups

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist                  = 5
ns-type                  = Grid
pbc                      = xyz
rlist                    = 2.0

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype              = Reaction-field-zero
rcoulomb                 = 1.8
epsilon_rf               = 0
vdw-type                 = Switch
rvdw                     = 2.0
rvdw-switch              = 1.6

; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT
fourierspacing           = 0.12
; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used =
fourier_nx               = 0
fourier_ny               = 0
fourier_nz               = 0
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters =
pme_order                = 4
ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
epsilon_surface          = 0
optimize_fft             = no
; Temperature coupling
tcoupl                   = nose-hoover
tc-grps                  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t                    = 0.2      0.2
ref_t                    = 300      300

; Pressure coupling
pcoupl                   = no

; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints              = all-bonds
constraint-algorithm     = SHAKE
shake_tol                = 0.0001

Pooja



On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Sai Pooja wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to reproduce results from a paper which uses this cutoff. The
>> work is on loop-folding and they use implicit solvent. I am using explicit
>> solvent with charmm 27. Below is my mdp file. I am not sure if there is any
>> advantage in using a large cut-off.
>>
>>
>>
> Large cutoffs can cause artifacts.  This .mdp file also does not match the
> error message you quoted before.  If it is indeed accurate, then it looks
> like your .mdp file is being interpreted incorrectly (2.0-nm cutoffs instead
> of 1.8 nm). If there is a misinterpretation, file a bugzilla.  If you've
> simply posted the wrong file, please post the correct file, if necessary.
>  But I'd suggest you do some homework about the effects of long cutoffs,
> especially if they deviate from what the force field derivation requires.
>
> -Justin
>
>  ; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
>> title                    = NVT simulation (constant number, pressure and
>> temperature)
>> cpp                      = /lib/cpp
>> define                   =-DPOSRES
>>
>> ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
>> integrator               = md
>> dt                       = 0.002
>> nsteps                   = 100000
>>
>> ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
>> nstxout                  = 10000
>> nstvout                  = 0
>> nstfout                  = 0
>> nstlog                   = 10000
>> nstenergy                = 10000
>> nstxtcout                = 0
>> xtc_precision            = 0
>> xtc-grps                 = System
>> energygrps               = Protein Non-Protein
>>
>> ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
>> nstlist                  = 5
>> ns-type                  = Grid
>> pbc                      = xyz
>> rlist                    = 1.8
>>
>> ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
>> coulombtype              = PME
>> fourierspacing           = 0.12
>> rcoulomb                 = 1.8
>> epsilon_rf               = 78
>> vdw-type                 = Cut-off
>> rvdw                     = 1.8
>>
>> ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used =
>> fourier_nx               = 0
>> fourier_ny               = 0
>> fourier_nz               = 0
>> ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters =
>> pme_order                = 4
>> ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
>> epsilon_surface          = 0
>> optimize_fft             = no
>>
>> ; Temperature coupling  Tcoupl                   = Berendsen
>> tc-grps                  = Protein  Non-Protein
>> tau_t                    = 0.2      0.2
>> ref_t                    = 300      300
>>
>> ; Pressure coupling     Pcoupl                   = Berendsen
>> Pcoupltype               = Isotropic
>> tau_p                    = 1.0
>> compressibility          = 4.5e-5
>> ref_p                    = 1.0
>>
>> ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
>> gen_vel                  = no    ; Assign velocities to particles by
>> taking them randomly from a Maxwell distribution
>> gen_temp                 = 300.0  ; Temperature to generate corresponding
>> Maxwell distribution
>> gen_seed                 = 9999   ; Seed for (semi) random number
>> generation.
>>
>>
>> ; OPTIONS constraints              = all-bonds
>>
>> Pooja
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sai Pooja wrote:
>>
>>        Hi,
>>
>>        I am getting these notes when I run grompp:
>>
>>        NOTE 3 [file Init/ffsb_init.top]:
>>         The largest charge group contains 12 atoms.
>>         Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of
>>        the charge
>>         groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too
>>        large charge
>>         groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
>>         For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a
>>        few atoms.
>>         For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2,
>>        CO, etc.
>>
>>        initialising group options...
>>        processing index file...
>>        Analysing residue names:
>>        There are:  3484      OTHER residues
>>        There are:    67    PROTEIN residues
>>        There are:     0        DNA residues
>>        There are:     0        RNA residues
>>        Analysing Protein...
>>        Analysing Other...
>>        Making dummy/rest group for Acceleration containing 11343 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for Freeze containing 11343 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for VCM containing 11343 elements
>>        Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Protein is 1777.76
>>        Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group non-Protein is
>>        20898.23
>>        Making dummy/rest group for User1 containing 11343 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for User2 containing 11343 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for XTC containing 10450 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for Or. Res. Fit containing 11343 elements
>>        Making dummy/rest group for QMMM containing 11343 elements
>>        T-Coupling       has 2 element(s): Protein non-Protein
>>        Energy Mon.      has 2 element(s): Protein non-Protein
>>        Acceleration     has 1 element(s): rest
>>        Freeze           has 1 element(s): rest
>>        User1            has 1 element(s): rest
>>        User2            has 1 element(s): rest
>>        VCM              has 1 element(s): rest
>>        XTC              has 2 element(s): Protein rest
>>        Or. Res. Fit     has 1 element(s): rest
>>        QMMM             has 1 element(s): rest
>>        Checking consistency between energy and charge groups...
>>        Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.288, 0.263 nm
>>        Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:       0.288, 0.263 nm
>>
>>        NOTE 4 [file nvtp.mdp]:
>>         The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.551009) is
>>        larger than
>>         rlist (2.000000) - rvdw (2.000000)
>>
>>        Can someone tell me how to correct these?
>>
>>
>>    Note 3 is explained in detail in the error message.  Beyond that,
>>    read about the group concept in the manual.
>>
>>    I've never seen Note 4 before, but a 2-nm cutoff is a bit strange
>>    for a protein simulation.  Any reason you're using such large
>>    cutoffs?  You may also want to provide your whole .mdp file to see
>>    if anyone can spot the underlying issue.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>    --     ========================================
>>
>>    Justin A. Lemkul
>>    Ph.D. Candidate
>>    ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>    MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>    Department of Biochemistry
>>    Virginia Tech
>>    Blacksburg, VA
>>    jalemkul[at]vt.edu <http://vt.edu> | (540) 231-9080
>>
>>    http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
>>
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