[gmx-users] Re: hydrogen bonds

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Sat Jul 31 01:00:58 CEST 2010



Vasilis Georgilas wrote:
> sorry for keep spamming you...
> 
> so i make 2 groups: acceptors and donors (with their hydrogen)
> 
> I hope now i am correct!
> 

One way to find out... :)

-Justin

> 
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Vasilis Georgilas wrote:
> 
>         I didn't get why the command i propsed won't work.
> 
> 
>     Because you typed:
> 
>     a HO a OM a O
> 
>     I assumed you meant you would actually try this with make_ndx.  It
>     is wrong for several reasons, the most immediate of which is the use
>     of "a" with atom types.  To use "a" you must supply atom *names* not
>     types.  If you want to specify any selections based on types, you
>     must provide a .tpr file as input and use "t" instead of "a."
> 
> 
>         My idea, according what you proposed, is to use make_ndx and
>         then make 3 groups:
> 
>         oxygen with the doble bond, oxyegn of carboxyle and hydroxele
> 
> 
>     These groups sound almost correct, but they do not correspond to
>     what you typed before.  You can't specify the hydrogen as its own
>     group, since it won't be connected to its donor atom (O4).  To
>     specify the hydroxyl, for example, what you want is:
> 
>     a H2 | a O4
> 
>     -Justin
> 
>         and then with the g_hbond to do all the calculations.
> 
>         Right??
> 
>         thank you once again for the help
> 
>         On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>         <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>         <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>            Vasilis Georgilas wrote:
> 
>                This is from my topology file for palmitic acid.
> 
>                You say a should make a group of all O, of OM and of HO.
> 
>                But for the calculation I need the angle between hydrogene -
>                donor - acceptor.
>                So my index file should be in triplets, right?? this means I
>                should type a HO a OA a O.
> 
>                Correct?
> 
> 
>            No.  The donor and acceptor groups should be separate.  The
>         geometry
>            is easily calculated from O-H...O coordinates.  You should
>         also not
>            have a group for just hydrogen, you need the group to contain the
>            relevant functional group, which is the hydroxyl in this case
>         (atoms
>            H2 and O4 in a single group).
> 
>            Also note that your proposed command will not work.  To select by
>            atom type (i.e., HO, OA, and O) you need to provide a .tpr
>         file as
>            input to make_ndx and use "t HO" etc.  Otherwise, select by
>         atom name.
> 
>            -Justin
> 
> 
>                thank you
> 
> 
>                [ atoms ]
>                ;   nr    type   resnr  residu    atom    cgnr      
>          charge              1      HO       1    PLM     H2        1  
>           0.370                    2      OM       1    PLM     O4      
>          1    -0.460            3
>                      C       1    PLM     C3        1     0.42          
>           4              O       1    PLM     O5        1    -0.45      
>               5            CP2       1    PLM     C4        2     0.12  
>                 6     CP2
>                      1    PLM     C5        3     0           7     CP2
>               1
>                   PLM     C6        4     0        8     CP2       1  
>          PLM            C7        5     0
>                    9     CP2       1    PLM     C8        6     0
>                   10     CP2       1    PLM     C9        7     0
>                   11     CP2       1    PLM     C10       8     0
>                   12     CP2       1    PLM     C11       9     0
>                   13     CP2       1    PLM     C12      10     0
>                   14     CP2       1    PLM     C13      11     0
>                   15     CP2       1    PLM     C14      12     0
>                   16     CP2       1    PLM     C15      13     0
>                   17     CP2       1    PLM     C16      14     0
>                   18     CP2       1    PLM     C17      15     0
>                   19     CP3       1    PLM     C18      16     0
> 
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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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