[gmx-users] Warning: 1-4 interaction

Moeed lecielll at googlemail.com
Sun Mar 6 02:18:55 CET 2011


Hello Justin,

I just scanned through the manual and also looked into the list to learn
about the significance of reciprocal part to realize your statement. I did
not find much about the fact that how I can judge if fourierspacing is the
cause of the crash (I mean relevance between fourierspacing and coulb
recip). I suspect the cause of crashes is because of electrostatics
settings. BEfore that I had only vdw no run crashed. Since I used to get
LINCS warning I removed bond constraints but still system is showing
instabilities. I am confident that topology is fine and just wondering how
else one can inspect root cause for unphysical forces.


fourierspacing =0.12 :  Coul. recip.                636.217    8.69433
8.62908  0.0167398    3.68278

fourierspacing =0.3 :    Coul. recip.                642.921    6.06063
6.02832 -0.00984063   -2.16496




>>
> Everything has a cause; nothing is accidental.  No stable run should ever
> show LINCS warnings like this, so yes, there is something to fix.
>
> You also have not proven that your fourierspacing is not the cause.  The
> proper term to analyze is Coul-recip, which corresponds to reciprocal space
> Coulombic term.  I don't see that listed below.
>
> -Justin
>
>
>  Thanks,
>> Best,
>> Moeed
>>
>> ========================================
>> step 164300, remaining runtime:   241 s          step 164400, remaining
>> runtime:   240 s          step 164500, remaining runtime:   240 s
>>  step 164600, remaining runtime:   239 s          Warning: 1-4 interaction
>> between 260 and 267 at distance 73679654.990 which is larger than the 1-4
>> table size 2.250 nm
>> These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
>> This usually means your system is exploding,
>> if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
>> or with user tables increase the table size
>> =========================================
>> results till t=320 ps (before first run crash)
>> fourierspacing      =  0.12
>>
>> LJ-14                       757.246    26.6239    26.5661 -0.0189929
>> -6.07777
>>
>> Coulomb-14                 -186.509    15.9866    15.9529 -0.0112174
>>  -3.5896
>>
>> LJ (SR)                    -2691.84    117.026    107.231  -0.507373
>> -162.361
>>
>> Coulomb (SR)                725.662    17.6483    17.5876  0.0158275
>>  5.06483
>>
>>
>> fourierspacing      =  0.3
>>
>>
>> LJ-14                       757.129    26.4936    26.4578 -0.0149128
>> -4.77214
>>
>> Coulomb-14                 -199.523     14.949     14.158 -0.0519427
>> -16.6218
>>
>> LJ (SR)                     -2670.5    111.201    109.688    0.19784
>>  63.3092
>>
>> Coulomb (SR)                739.794    16.1807    15.4473  0.0521352
>>  16.6834
>>
>> ====================================================
>> pbc              =  xyz
>>       ;        Run control                   integrator          =  md
>>               dt                  =  0.002               nsteps
>>  =  1000000 ;5000         nstcomm             =  100
>> ;        Output control
>> nstenergy           =  100                  nstxout             =  100
>>             nstvout             =  0
>> nstfout             =  0
>> nstlog              =  1000                 nstxtcout          =  1000
>>
>> ;        Neighbor searching
>> nstlist             =  10               ns_type             =  grid
>>
>> ;        Electrostatics/VdW
>> coulombtype         =  PME                    vdw-type            =  Shift
>>             rcoulomb-switch     =  0                  rvdw-switch         =
>>  0.9 ;0
>> ;        Cut-offs
>> rlist               =  1.25                 rcoulomb            =  1.25
>> ;1.1             rvdw                =  1.0
>> ;        PME parameters
>> fourierspacing      =  0.3                 fourier_nx          =  0
>> fourier_ny          =  0
>> fourier_nz          =  0
>> pme_order          =  4                ewald_rtol         =  1e-5
>> optimize_fft      =  yes
>>
>> ;        Temperature coupling   Tcoupl              =  v-rescale
>>       tc-grps             =  System  ;HEX              tau_t               =
>>  0.1     ;0.1                  ref_t               =  400     ;300
>>
>> ;        Pressure coupling
>> Pcoupl              =  Parrinello-Rahman            Pcoupltype          =
>>  isotropic                 tau_p               =  1      1           ;0.5
>>       compressibility     =  4.5e-5 4.5e-5          ref_p               =
>>  70    70
>> ;        Velocity generation               gen_vel             =  yes
>>           gen_temp            =  300.0               gen_seed            =
>>  173529
>> ;        Bonds
>> constraints             = all-bonds             constraint-algorithm =
>> lincs
>>
>>
> --
> ========================================
>
> Justin A. Lemkul
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> ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
> MILES-IGERT Trainee
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
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Moeed Shahamat
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