[gmx-users] Average no of hbonds

[Steven Neumann]

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

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> Steven Neumann wrote:
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>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au<mailto:
>> Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.**au <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>>> wrote:
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>>    On 6/09/2011 11:37 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:
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>>        Dear Gromacs Users,
>>        I am calculating hbonds between my 10 ligands and each
>>        residue... How does Gromacs calculate average number of hbonds
>>        per timeframe?
>>        Example:
>>        for Glycine:
>>        Av. num of hbonds/timeframe
>>        0.96
>>        To check whether that is correct I added all hbonds formed with
>>        Glycine during my simulation time over 2000 (each 50ps)
>>        timeframes and I obtained value: 2900. If you divide it by 2000
>>        you will never get 0.96 obviously. How does Gromacs calculate it?
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>>    Presumably by adding up the number in each time frame and dividing
>>    by the number. Unless you have a highly-exposed glycine, forming
>>    more than one H-bond seems unlikely, and your 2900 number suggests
>>    it's happening lots of times. I expect you're comparing a sum of
>>    oranges with a sum of apples, but without more information about
>>    what you're doing in your attempt to check, we can't help much.
>>    Please be sure to read g_hbond -h, and the legends of any .xvg files
>>    you're looking at.
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>>    Mark
>>    Thank you Justin and Mark,
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>>  Yes, just found the mistake... I added pairs within 3.5 A instead of
>> hbonds so the Gromacs calculation is correct. So the value is 0.96 for
>> Glycine. So in this case it is a strong interaction. Are there any criteria
>> to assess strenght of interactions or binding affinity for residues? Was it
>> described anywhere for each residue to specify these values with respect to
>> possible hbonds for each residue (e.g. Glycine - 3)?
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> Binding affinity can be determined from free energy calculations, but for
> the case of multiple ligands this would be an incredibly complex calculation
> (or series of calculations, really).  You might be able to make some
> argument about occupancy of available hydrogen bonding sites.
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> -Justin
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So will it be possible to exteract one ligand which from my visualisation
occupy one residue with highest number of av. hbonds (others aggregate on
bounded or bind weaker) and then calculate free energy?

Steven

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