[gmx-users] Implicit solvent - Gromacs 4.5.4

Vedat Durmaz durmaz at zib.de
Tue Feb 28 15:29:32 CET 2012


actually, as far as i know, the -DFLEXIBLE argument has no effect on 
simulations without explicit water ?!

i just copied the "define" line from my explicit simulation systems .. 
so, the only define value, that has a meaning is -DPOSRESHELIX.

i didn't use constraints for the first time in my life since implicit 
solvent simulations incorporate a much smaller number of atoms and are 
therefore not that expensive computationally. i always use this setting 
for my explicit simulations only in order to increase the step size to 
2fs with a clear conscience ...

best wishes
vedat


Am 28.02.2012 15:18, schrieb Steven Neumann:
> Thank you all!
> How about -DFLEXIBLE in both em and md?
> Steven
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     lina wrote:
>
>         On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Steven Neumann
>         <s.neumann08 at gmail.com <mailto:s.neumann08 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Thank you Vedat!
>
>             Why do you use -DFLEXIBLE in md and in em?
>             Why dont you use constraint algorithm (LINCS) in your
>             simulation?
>
>
>         Otherwise, the system is easily explode with lots of LINCS
>         warning.
>
>
>     A system that is unstable will cause the LINCS algorithm to fail,
>     but turning off constraints does not prevent a system from
>     becoming unstable or crashing.
>
>     -Justin
>
>
>         Also thanks Vedat for sharing,
>
>         Best regards,
>
>             Steven
>
>             On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vedat Durmaz
>             <durmaz at zib.de <mailto:durmaz at zib.de>> wrote:
>
>
>                 hi steven,
>
>                 i've been simulating a 33 AA peptide for the past two
>                 days using implicent
>                 solvent in order to achieve a proper folding.
>
>                 i haven't added counterions, however, the systems
>                 shows nice results
>                 according to what i've expected. the mdrun command
>                 (for the extension) for
>                 our hardware looks as follows:
>
>                 mpiexec -np 4 mdrun -pd -s md.tpr -append -cpi md.cpt
>                 -deffnm md 2>&1
>
>                 and here's the mdp file for the energy minimization:
>
>                 define              =  -DFLEXIBLE
>                 constraints         =  none
>                 integrator          =  steep
>                 dt                  =  0.001    ; ps
>                 nsteps              =  30000
>                 vdwtype             =  cut-off
>                 coulombtype         =  cut-off
>                 pbc                 =  no
>                 nstlist             =  0
>                 ns_type             =  simple
>                 rlist               =  0       ; this means all-vs-all
>                 (no cut-off), which
>                 gets expensive for bigger systems
>                 rcoulomb            =  0
>                 rvdw                =  0
>                 comm-mode           =  angular
>                 comm-grps           =  Protein
>                 optimize_fft        =  yes
>                 ;
>                 ;       Energy minimizing stuff
>                 ;
>                 emtol               =  5.0
>                 emstep              =  0.01
>                 ;
>                 ; Implicit solvent
>                 ;
>                 implicit_solvent    =  GBSA
>                 gb_algorithm        =  Still ; HCT ; OBC
>                 nstgbradii          =  1
>                 rgbradii            =  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the
>                 calculation of the Born
>                 radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
>                 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80    ; Dielectric constant for
>                 the implicit
>                 solvent
>                 ; gb_saltconc       =  0     ; Salt concentration for
>                 implicit solvent
>                 models, currently not used
>                 sa_algorithm        =  Ace-approximation
>                 sa_surface_tension  = -1
>
>
>                 and for the md run:
>
>                 define              =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
>                 constraints         =  none
>                 integrator          =  md
>                 dt                  =  0.001   ; ps
>                 nsteps              =  1000000000 ; 100000 ps = 100 ns
>                 nstcomm             =  10
>                 nstcalcenergy       =  10
>                 nstxout             =  1000     ; frequency to write
>                 coordinates to output
>                 trajectory
>                 nstvout             =  0       ; frequency to write
>                 velocities to output
>                 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
>                 nstfout             =  0       ; frequency to write
>                 forces to output
>                 trajectory
>                 nstlog              =  1000         ; frequency to
>                 write energies to log
>                 file
>                 nstenergy           =  1000     ; frequency to write
>                 energies to edr file
>
>                 vdwtype             =  cut-off
>                 coulombtype         =  cut-off
>
>                 pbc                 =  no
>
>                 nstlist             =  0
>                 ns_type             =  simple
>                 rlist               =  0       ; this means all-vs-all
>                 (no cut-off), which
>                 gets expensive for bigger systems
>                 rcoulomb            =  0
>                 rvdw                =  0
>
>                 comm-mode           =  angular
>                 comm-grps           =  system
>
>                 optimize_fft        =  yes
>
>                 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
>                 Tcoupl              =  v-rescale
>                 tau_t               =  0.1
>                 tc_grps             =  system
>                 ref_t               =  300
>                 ; Pressure coupling is off
>                 Pcoupl              =  no
>                 ; Generate velocites is on
>                 gen_vel             =  yes
>                 gen_temp            =  300
>                 gen_seed            =  -1
>
>                 ;
>                 ; Implicit solvent
>                 ;
>                 implicit_solvent    =  GBSA
>                 gb_algorithm        =  Still ; HCT ; OBC
>                 nstgbradii          =  1
>                 rgbradii            =  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the
>                 calculation of the Born
>                 radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
>                 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  80    ; Dielectric constant for
>                 the implicit
>                 solvent
>                 ; gb_saltconc       =  0     ; Salt concentration for
>                 implicit solvent
>                 models, currently not used
>                 sa_algorithm        =  Ace-approximation
>                 sa_surface_tension  = -1
>
>
>                 best regards,
>                 vedat
>
>
>                 Am 28.02.2012 11:59, schrieb Steven Neumann:
>
>                     Dear Gmx Users,
>                     I am using Gromacs 4.5.4 and I would like to
>                     implement implicit solvent
>                     for folding of my protein. I read mailing list and
>                     it is still confusing for
>                     me.
>                     Is it proper to use counterions within the system?
>                     If not, how can I
>                     obtain netral system?
>                     Do we use cut off for vdw and coulombic interactions?
>                     What kind of integrator should be used with a
>                     timestep?
>                     I will appreciate an mdp file for protein folding!
>                     Thank you
>                     Steven
>
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>     Justin A. Lemkul
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