[gmx-users] Monte Carlo with Gromacs and implicit solvent

René Pool r.pool at vu.nl
Tue Jan 24 10:00:34 CET 2012


By the way, the tutorial can be found on the wiki page at
https://github.com/GromPy/GromPy/wiki/Tutorial:-Using-GromPy-in-GCMC-mode.

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René Pool

Division of Molecular and Computational Toxicology
Department of Chemistry and Pharmaceutical Sciences
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On 01/24/2012 09:30 AM, Pool, R. wrote:
> Hi Gianluca,
>
> You might want to take a look at GromPy 
> (https://github.com/GromPy/GromPy).
> This is a python interface to the GROMACS library. Amongst other 
> applications, there is an option to perform grand-canonical Monte 
> Carlo using GromPy. The necessary energy evaluations are performed 
> using direct library calls to GROMACS. In this way it is possible to 
> get around the possibly prohibitive file I/O in shell implementations 
> that use the GROMACS executables. A paper on GromPy and GromPy/GCMC 
> has recently been accepted in JCC, so more details will follow. In the 
> meantime you can have a look at the code and the tutorial on the above 
> website.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Cheers,
> Rene
>
> =====================================================
> René Pool
>
> Division of Molecular and Computational Toxicology
> Department of Chemistry and Pharmaceutical Sciences
> Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
> De Boelelaan 1083
> 1081HV AMSTERDAM, the Netherlands
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> IBIVU/Bioinformatics
> Department of Computer Science
> Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
> De Boelelaan 1081a
> 1081HV AMSTERDAM, the Netherlands
>
> Room P 2.75
> E: r.pool at vu.nl
> T: +31 20 598 76 12
> F: +31 20 598 76 10
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> *From:* gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org [gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org] 
> on behalf of Rodrigo Faccioli [rodrigo_faccioli at uol.com.br]
> *Sent:* 24 January 2012 05:29
> *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users
> *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Monte Carlo with Gromacs and implicit solvent
>
> Hi Gianluca,
>
> I forgot to say that the step of compute the energies is considered 
> from pdb2gmx until g_energy.
>
> Sorry about my oblivion.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli
> Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering
> University of Sao Paulo - USP
> Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC
> Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL
> Intelligent System in Structure Bioinformatics
> http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br
> Phone: 55 (16) 3373-9366 Ext 229
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>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Rodrigo Faccioli 
> <rodrigo_faccioli at uol.com.br <mailto:rodrigo_faccioli at uol.com.br>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Gianluca,
>
>     Thanks your question.
>
>     All steps to obtain a generation with 200 individuals, on average,
>     is 6 minutes for 1VII, example. In each generation I must 
>     converted my proteins Dihedral to Cartesian representation,
>     compute the energies, choose the individuals which will go to
>     reproduction, save previous population. This test was using one
>     core of a conventional Desktop computer.
>
>     The proteins, that I have tested my algorithm, vary from 20 to 56
>     amino acids.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     --
>     Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli
>     Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering
>     University of Sao Paulo - USP
>     Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC
>     Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL
>     Intelligent System in Structure Bioinformatics
>     http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br
>     Phone: 55 (16) 3373-9366 Ext 229
>     Curriculum Lattes - http://lattes.cnpq.br/1025157978990218
>     Public Profile - http://br.linkedin.com/pub/rodrigo-faccioli/7/589/a5
>
>
>     On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Gianluca Interlandi
>     <gianluca at u.washington.edu <mailto:gianluca at u.washington.edu>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks Enrico!
>
>         Just wondering. How fast is it? Calling gromacs must have a
>         lot of overhead. Also, do you call mdrun or does g_energy
>         evaluate the energy?
>
>         Gianluca
>
>
>         On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Rodrigo Faccioli wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>
>             Although I don't work with MC simulation, I have used
>             Gromacs to obtain energies and others
>             protein features in my Evolutionary Algorithms (EA).
>
>             In general lines, I created a script that calls Gromacs
>             programs and the output of these
>             programs, such as g_energy (I read its xvg file), I stored
>             it at a specific file which is
>             read by my algorithm and its values are put into my data
>             structure. I call Gromacs either
>             implicit or explicit solvent.
>
>             My project is working with EA until now. However, the
>             integration with GROMACS is able to
>             work with other kind of algorithms such as MC. Actually,
>             we have idea to work with MC. But,
>             I don't know when it will be possible. If you want, we can
>             talk about join these work.
>
>             Best regards,
>
>             --
>             Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli
>             Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering
>             University of Sao Paulo - USP
>             Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC
>             Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL
>             Intelligent System in Structure Bioinformatics
>             http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br
>             Phone: 55 (16) 3373-9366 Ext 229
>             Curriculum Lattes - http://lattes.cnpq.br/1025157978990218
>             Public Profile -
>             http://br.linkedin.com/pub/rodrigo-faccioli/7/589/a5
>
>
>             On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Gianluca Interlandi
>             <gianluca at u.washington.edu
>             <mailto:gianluca at u.washington.edu>> wrote:
>                  Hi!
>
>                  I would like to use gromacs to perform Monte Carlo
>             simulations in implicit
>                  solvent of a protein near a surface. The protein is
>             treated as a rigid body
>                  whereas the surface is fix.
>
>                  I see that there are plans to code MC into gromacs:
>
>             http://www.gromacs.org/Developer_Zone/Programming_Guide/Monte_Carlo
>
>                  Is there a preliminary version?
>
>                  If not, I wonder whether anybody has tried to do MC
>             with gromacs using IMD and
>                  MDDriver:
>
>             http://www.baaden.ibpc.fr/projects/mddriver/
>
>                  Besides this. Is there an easy way to obtain the
>             force field energy of a system
>                  using gromacs? Would I have to run a 0-steps MD and
>             read out the energy? I know
>                  that this would have a big overhead in a MC
>             simulation, but it might be worth
>                  trying.
>
>                  Thanks,
>
>                      Gianluca
>
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