[gmx-users] simulation using tabulated dihedral potentials.

Mark Abraham mark.j.abraham at gmail.com
Tue Dec 10 20:56:45 CET 2013


Agreed. I would suggest varying which of the tables are used, to find a
culprit.

Mark
On Dec 11, 2013 1:46 AM, "Justin Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Chandan Choudhury <iitdckc at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Chandan Choudhury <iitdckc at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 12/9/13 8:09 AM, Chandan Choudhury wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Mark Abraham <
> mark.j.abraham at gmail.com
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Do your tabulated functions work on a toy system, like butane?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  No Mark. I didnot try with butane. The simulation stops when I
> > >>> incorporated
> > >>> tabulated dihedral potential.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Which is precisely why Mark is suggesting that you test something
> > simple.
> > >>  If the simulation runs using a normal potential, but fails with your
> > >> tabulated potential, that suggests quite strongly that your tabulated
> > >> potential is not sound.  So you need to go back to something very
> simple
> > >> that should have a very obvious outcome and scrutinize its success or
> > >> failure, then move on to something slightly more complex, etc until it
> > >> fails and you identify where the problem lies.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > >
> > > Initially the system had 80 chains. Now I reduced it to single chain.
> The
> > > single chains consisted of just 12 Coarse Grained  beads.
> > > The simulation proceeds very smoothly for 200000000 steps.
> > > The tabulated bond, tab. angle and tab. dihedral potentials were on.
> > >
> > > Few more updates.
> > I now increased the no. of chains to 10. The system now consists of 120
> > beads. Will all the tabulated potentials, following is the snippet form
> the
> > log file:
> >
> >
> >
> >            Step           Time         Lambda
> >        77670000   388350.00000        0.00000
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >     2.03886e+02    5.00884e+02    1.33715e+02    9.77543e+01
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >     9.36239e+02    7.78233e+02    1.71447e+03    5.24366e+02
>  6.92929e+01
> >
> >            Step           Time         Lambda
> >        77675000   388375.00000        0.00000
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >             nan    3.50433e+06            nan    0.00000e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >             nan           -nan           -nan           -nan
> -nan
> >
> >            Step           Time         Lambda
> >        77680000   388400.00000        0.00000
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >             nan    3.50433e+06            nan    0.00000e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >             nan           -nan           -nan           -nan
> -nan
> >
> >            Step           Time         Lambda
> >        77685000   388425.00000        0.00000
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >             nan    3.50433e+06            nan    0.00000e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >             nan           -nan           -nan           -nan
> -nan
> >
> > ........
> > ........
> > Writing checkpoint, step 200000000 at Tue Dec 10 00:12:21 2013
> >
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >             nan    3.50433e+06            nan    0.00000e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >             nan           -nan           -nan           -nan
> -nan
> >
> >     <======  ###############  ==>
> >     <====  A V E R A G E S  ====>
> >     <==  ###############  ======>
> >
> >     Statistics over 200000001 steps using 2000001 frames
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >             nan    2.14355e+06            nan    3.19828e+01
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >             nan           -nan           -nan           -nan
> -nan
> >
> >    Total Virial (kJ/mol)
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >
> >    Pressure (bar)
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >            -nan           -nan           -nan
> >
> >
> > Due the limitation in the no. of beads, the simulation runs on single
> > processor. The mdrun doesnot show any error. It proceeds upto 200000000
> > steps. But we can see from the log file after 77675000 steps there is
> some
> > problem.
> > I also run a simulation with just 2 chains (24 beads). The simulation
> > proceeds smoothly. Output of log file:
> >
> >       199995000   999975.00000        0.00000
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >     2.01529e+01    8.50365e+01    1.34663e+01    1.44338e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >     1.20099e+02    1.92775e+02    3.12874e+02    6.72038e+02
>  2.80949e+01
> >
> >            Step           Time         Lambda
> >       200000000   1000000.00000        0.00000
> >
> > Writing checkpoint, step 200000000 at Tue Dec 10 15:10:21 2013
> >
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >     2.50423e+01    1.12245e+02    1.85350e+01    2.55573e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >     1.58378e+02    1.69571e+02    3.27949e+02    5.91148e+02
>  6.65343e+00
> >
> >     <======  ###############  ==>
> >     <====  A V E R A G E S  ====>
> >     <==  ###############  ======>
> >
> >     Statistics over 200000001 steps using 2000001 frames
> >
> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
> (SR)
> >     4.48786e+01    8.97012e+01    2.00644e+01    2.34681e+00
>  0.00000e+00
> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
> (bar)
> >     1.56991e+02    1.44750e+02    3.01741e+02    5.04619e+02
>  1.54418e+00
> >
> >    Total Virial (kJ/mol)
> >     4.35571e+01    8.71257e-02    2.84028e-01
> >     8.71252e-02    4.38582e+01    3.08832e-01
> >     2.84028e-01    3.08832e-01    4.37737e+01
> >
> >    Pressure (bar)
> >     1.60808e+00   -2.94158e-02   -7.80104e-02
> >    -2.94156e-02    1.48653e+00   -1.01639e-01
> >    -7.80103e-02   -1.01639e-01    1.53793e+00
> >
> > I donot understand what might be the problem. Is it actually the input
> > tabulated potentials or something else?
> >
>
> Still looks like the tabulated potential is the problem.  Increasing the
> number of chains simply increases the likelihood of one or more
> interactions to fail.
>
> -Justin
>
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>
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