[gmx-users] RE: gmx-users Digest, Vol 109, Issue 112

Yutian Yang yyang18 at syr.edu
Sat May 18 22:25:22 CEST 2013


Dear all, 

I am using g_msd to calculate diffusion coefficient of the centre of mass of single polymer chain with the following command: 
g_msd_mpi -f 1.trr -s eqm.tpr -n run.ndx -rmcomm -beginfit 50000 -endfit 400000

However, it often get killed for number of beads larger than 37, as shown below: 

Reading file eqm.tpr, VERSION 4.0.3 (single precision)
Reading file eqm.tpr, VERSION 4.0.3 (single precision)

Select a group to calculate mean squared displacement for:
Group     0 (         System) has 13042 elements
Group     1 (            PEO) has    37 elements
Group     2 (             WF) has  1301 elements
Group     3 (              W) has 11704 elements
Group     4 (           WF_W) has 13005 elements
Select a group: 1
Selected 1: 'PEO'

Now select a group for center of mass removal:
Group     0 (         System) has 13042 elements
Group     1 (            PEO) has    37 elements
Group     2 (             WF) has  1301 elements
Group     3 (              W) has 11704 elements
Group     4 (           WF_W) has 13005 elements
Select a group: 1
Selected 1: 'PEO'
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   24000 time 240000.000   Killed. 

Is it also a bug in the program or have I done something wrong on the command? 

Thank you! 

Best Regards
Yutian Yang


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Today's Topics:

   1. metadynamics (Sathish Kumar)
   2. charmm in gromacs cut-offs (tarak karmakar)
   3. R: [gmx-users] metadynamics (Spitaleri Andrea)
   4. proceed from output of MD (Ewaru)
   5. Add CS ions to system (Shima Arasteh)
   6. Re: Re: REMD analysis (bharat gupta)
   7. Re: proceed from output of MD (Ewaru)
   8. Re: charmm in gromacs cut-offs (Justin Lemkul)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 15:56:15 +0530
From: Sathish Kumar <sathishk238 at gmail.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] metadynamics
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Sir,
         i want to learn about metadynamics,  how to run metadynamics in
gromacs.please suggest me in this regard.
                                       Thank you.

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:28:13 +0530
From: tarak karmakar <tarak20489 at gmail.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] charmm in gromacs cut-offs
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Dear All,

    It seems the problem in the cut-off schemes while using charmm force
field in gromacs persists even in the latest gromacs-4.6.1 version.
Recently I have posted regarding this problem came in gromacs-4.5.5
version. If anybody has already tested this issue in the latest version,
please leave a comment in the mailing list.

The cut-off parameters I have used are as follows

rlist                      = 1.2
rlistlong               = 1.4

; 7.3.10 Electrostatics
coulombtype              = PME
rcoulomb                    = 1.2

; 7.3.11 VdW
vdwtype                    = switch
rvdw                          = 1.2
rvdw-switch              = 1.0

NOTE 3 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
  The switch/shift interaction settings are just for compatibility; you
  will get better performance from applying potential modifiers to your
  interactions!

NOTE 4 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
  For energy conservation with switch/shift potentials, rlist should be 0.1
  to 0.3 nm larger than rvdw.

NOTE 5 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.079732) is larger than
  rlist (1.200000) - rvdw (1.200000)

This part is reported as bug in gromacs -4.5.5 and required to be verified
by users through their feedback

http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1164

In this link it is showing affected version grom-4.6.1 !!

Thanks and regards,
Tarak


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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 15:50:01 +0200
From: Spitaleri Andrea <spitaleri.andrea at hsr.it>
Subject: R: [gmx-users] metadynamics
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Hi,

have look to:

http://www.plumed-code.org/

and

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Sir,
         i want to learn about metadynamics,  how to run metadynamics in
gromacs.please suggest me in this regard.
                                       Thank you.

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 06:51:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ewaru <edina_wang at yahoo.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] proceed from output of MD
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Hi,

I have run a 20ns MD simulation on my protein structure and about to proceed
with Autodock. I am wondering if I have missed anything. The output of the
file is gro, so I converted it to a pdb file. Then, when I process it with
Autodock Tools, all I get is the water molecules surrounding my protein in a
box. How can I get rid of the box?

Please advice.

Thanking you in advance.


Best regards



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shima Arasteh <shima_arasteh2001 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] Add CS ions to system
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Hi all,

I want to add CS ions to my system by genion but it seems impossible when go through the EM.

The molecule section in my top file is:
Protein_chain_A???? 1
Protein_chain_B???? 1
POPC??? ??? 238
SOL???????? 20406
NA?????????????? 681
CL?????????????? 702
CS?????????????? 19

The commands to neutralize and adding CsCl are as follow:


Adding ions:
#grompp -f ions.mdp -c system_solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr
#genion -s ions.tpr -o system_solv_ions.gro -p topol.top -conc 1 -neutral

Adding 19 pairs of CsCl:

#grompp -f ions.mdp -c system_solv_ions.gro -p topol.top -o ions_CsCl.tpr
#genion -s ions_CsCl.tpr -o system_solv_ions_CsCl.gro -p topol.top -pname CS -np 19 -nname CL -nn 19


EM:

And fatal error as I get is:
#grompp -f minim.mdp -c system_solv_ions_CsCl.gro -p topol.top -o minim.tpr
Fatal error:
No such moleculetype CS


But I see the CS ion in residuetypes.dat which exist in my directory :

CS??? Ion

?
So what's the reason? If it is related to the version of applied GROMACS? I am working with 4.5.5 GROMACS and CHARMM 36 FF.


Thanks. Would you give me any suggestions?

Sincerely,
Shima


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 00:17:21 +0900
From: bharat gupta <bharat.85.monu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis
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Dear Sir,

My main objective of carrying out REMD is to study peptide folding and if
possible to get some insight in protein design and folding. I read some
articles related to my work and they always show temp (replica_index)
graphs for 2-3 replicas , saying that the sufficient sampling had been
achieved. In my case I checked the replica_temp for first three replicas (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.png) (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.png)
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.png)

Almost all the three graphs are similar and the last 15ns shows that there
is no enough exchange (if I have analyzed correctly) ?? In this case the
acceptance ratio was fine and PE overlap was also good, but problem lies
with efficient sampling ?? What shall I do in such a case ??

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Mark Abraham <mark.j.abraham at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM, bharat gupta <bharat.85.monu at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > The the default bin width is 0.1 which I used for plotting the graphs.
> >
>
> That's nice. You need to decide what you need to do about it if you want
> graphs that look like those you see reported :-)
>
>
> > Another question is about your last reply to my thread "exchange
> acceptance
> > is a poor proxy for sampling efficiency". Sorry to ask this, but how to
> > check whether the sampling efficiency is optimal or not (what should be
> > optimal sampling efficiency) ??
> >
>
> Ah, now here's the real question :-) Spacing the replicas for optimal
> *flow* is a difficult problem, even for toy peptides, see e.g. papers by
> Nadler and Hansmann. Merely accepting exchanges does not imply flow. The
> belief is that getting flow enhances sampling, but the latter is hard to
> demonstrate without showing that "simulation time to converged sampling"
> actually reduces. I'm not aware of anybody who's actually done that - but
> it would certainly be an advantage if your application is interested in
> data at a range of temperatures.
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Mark Abraham <mark.j.abraham at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Histograms 101: The smaller your bin width, the more variations you
> see.
> > > The more samples you have, the fewer variations you see. A histogram
> that
> > > does not mention either of this is a work of fiction.
> > >
> > > The number of degrees of freedom in the potential energy distribution
> is
> > > also a factor in whether the distribution will look smooth for a given
> > bin
> > > width and number of samples.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM, bharat gupta <
> bharat.85.monu at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Sir,
> > > >
> > > > I tried plotting the PE overlap using the following way :-
> > > >
> > > > 1. extract PE of each replica using g_energy
> > > > 2. get the PE distribution using g_analyze -f potential_0.xvg -dist
> > > > pot0.xvg
> > > > 3. used xmgrace to plot all the PE distribution graphs together.
> > > >
> > > > The same thing I did for temperature distribution for each replica.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the file for both PE overlap (
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/895f1bi0hkuy884/pe_dist.png)
> > > > temp distribution (
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png
> > > > )
> > > > Is this the correct way ??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But the plot doesnot look like this (
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsuabkl7zrydnib/sample%20PE%20overlap.jpg
> ).
> > > Do i
> > > > have to normalize the data and then plot in order to get a smooth
> plot
> > > like
> > > > this one??
> > > >
> > > > --------
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 08:31:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ewaru <edina_wang at yahoo.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: proceed from output of MD
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Hey,

I have figured that out! My bad! :D

Thank you.

Best regards



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 14:46:38 -0400
From: Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] charmm in gromacs cut-offs
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On 5/18/13 7:58 AM, tarak karmakar wrote:
> Dear All,
>
>      It seems the problem in the cut-off schemes while using charmm force
> field in gromacs persists even in the latest gromacs-4.6.1 version.
> Recently I have posted regarding this problem came in gromacs-4.5.5
> version. If anybody has already tested this issue in the latest version,
> please leave a comment in the mailing list.
>
> The cut-off parameters I have used are as follows
>
> rlist                      = 1.2
> rlistlong               = 1.4
>
> ; 7.3.10 Electrostatics
> coulombtype              = PME
> rcoulomb                    = 1.2
>
> ; 7.3.11 VdW
> vdwtype                    = switch
> rvdw                          = 1.2
> rvdw-switch              = 1.0
>
> NOTE 3 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
>    The switch/shift interaction settings are just for compatibility; you
>    will get better performance from applying potential modifiers to your
>    interactions!
>
> NOTE 4 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
>    For energy conservation with switch/shift potentials, rlist should be 0.1
>    to 0.3 nm larger than rvdw.
>
> NOTE 5 [file md_sim_ann.mdp]:
>    The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.079732) is larger than
>    rlist (1.200000) - rvdw (1.200000)
>
> This part is reported as bug in gromacs -4.5.5 and required to be verified
> by users through their feedback
>
> http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1164
>
> In this link it is showing affected version grom-4.6.1 !!
>

There are a lot of conditionals that are evaluated and probably (as Mark has
indicated) some of them are conflicting.  What you have posted above seems
correct from my interpretation of everything I have read about using CHARMM.
Since all you are getting are notes (rather than errors), you shouldn't have any
problems.

-Justin

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