[gmx-users] Distance restraints exploding system

Trayder Thomas trayder.thomas at monash.edu
Mon Sep 2 04:54:35 CEST 2013


It still explodes on a 0.1fs timestep, turning off P-R doesn't seem to have
an impact. I've tried being gentle, slowly turning up the force constant
and running for 1 ns for each value but as soon as the force constant
approaches 100 it crashes.
The starting structure was generated with the same restraints, so it is
very close. I have tried using slightly different starting structures as
well.

I've tried running it with only 3 restraints (1 methyl group to 1 hydrogen
with the restraints extended by 0.2nm so that all hydrogens are within the
restraint distance) and I'm getting a segmentation fault (no LINCS
warnings) at 100 steps. It runs fine with any combination of 2 hydrogens
restrained, but as soon as I restrain the 3rd one I get a segmentation
fault (this occurs with either setting for disre-weighting). So it seems to
fair better with more restraints?

The more I try to solve this problem the less it makes sense!

-Trayder


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Mark Abraham <mark.j.abraham at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Trayder <trayder.thomas at monash.edu>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am attempting to simulate a protein-ligand complex using distance
> > restraints to match it to NMR data.
> > The system runs stably without restraints. With restraints it tends to
> spit
> > out LINCS angle warnings and blow up under most conditions.
> >
> > I'm attempting to use:
> > ;       Restraints
> > disre           =  simple
> > disre-weighting =  conservative
> > disre-fc        =  1000
> >
> > It blows up within 100 steps unless:
> > I run on a single core (+gpu) or
> > disre-fc = <100 or
> > disre-weighting = equal
> >
> > If disre-weighting = conservative is causing extreme forces, then I
> figure
> > it should do the same on 1 core.
>
> Not really. MD is chaotic. Small changes in initial conditions lead to
> different results.
>
> > If domain decomposition is the problem, then I would think
> disre-weighting =
> > equal shouldn't work either.
> > I'm stumped... anyone got any ideas?
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up has the
> usual suggestions - don't use P-R yet, try a smaller time step, make
> sure your system is close to the restrained regime (or be extra gentle
> until it is).
>
> Mark
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> > -Trayder
> >
> > Distance restraints excerpt:
> > ; ai    aj      type    index   type’   low     up1     up2     fac
> > ; 2 symmetric hydrogens
> >  1306  1389     1       10      1       0.0     0.548   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1396     1       10      1       0.0     0.548   1.0     1.0
> > ; Diastereotopic methyl groups
> >  1306  1374     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1375     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1376     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1385     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1386     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >  1306  1387     1       11      1       0.0     0.654   1.0     1.0
> >
> > Full mdp:
> > ;       Run Control
> > integrator      =  md                          ; simulation algorithm
> > tinit                    = 0
> > dt                       = 0.002
> > nsteps          =  500000
> > ;
> > ;       Output Control
> > nstxout         =  200000                        ; write coordinates to
> .trr
> > nstvout         =  200000                        ; write velocities to
> .trr
> > nstlog          =  1000                         ; write energies to .log
> > nstenergy       =  4000                         ; write energies to .edr
> > nstxtcout       =  1000                          ; write coordinates to
> .xtc
> > ;
> > ;       Neighbour Searching
> > nstlist         =  10                           ; update neighbour list
> > ns_type         =  grid                         ; neighbour list method
> > pbc             =  xyz                          ; periodic boundary
> > conditions
> > rlist           =  0.9                          ; cut-off for short-range
> > neighbour (nm)
> > cutoff-scheme   =  verlet
> > ;
> > ;       Electrostatics and VdW
> > coulombtype     =  PME                          ; type of coulomb
> > interaction
> > rcoulomb        =  0.9                          ; cut-off distance for
> > coulomb
> > epsilon_r       =  1                            ; dielectric constant
> > rvdw            =  0.9                          ; cut-off for vdw
> > fourierspacing  =  0.12                         ; maximum grid spacing
> for
> > FFT
> > pme_order       =  4                            ; interpolation order for
> > PME
> > ewald_rtol      =  1e-5                         ; relative strength of
> > Ewald-shifted
> > DispCorr        =  EnerPres                     ; long range dispersion
> > corrections
> > ;
> > ;       Restraints
> > disre           =  simple
> > disre-weighting =  conservative
> > disre-fc        =  1000
> > ;
> > ;       Temperature Coupling
> > Tcoupl          =  v-rescale                    ; type of temperature
> > coupling
> > tc-grps         =  Protein non-Protein                       ; coupled
> > groups
> > tau_t           =  .1 .1                           ; T-coupling time
> > constant (ps)
> > ref_t           =  310 310                          ; reference
> temperature
> > (K)
> > ;
> > ;       Pressure Coupling
> > Pcoupl          =  parrinello-rahman                    ; type of
> pressure
> > coupling
> > Pcoupltype      =  isotropic                    ; pressure coupling
> geometry
> > tau_p           =  2.0                         ; p-coupling time constant
> > (ps)
> > compressibility =  4.5e-5                       ; compressibiity
> > ref_p           =  1.0                          ; reference pressure
> (bar)
> > ;
> > ;       Velocity Generation
> > gen_vel         =  no                           ; generate initial
> > velocities
> > ;
> > ;       Bonds
> > constraints     =  all-bonds                    ; which bonds to contrain
> > constraint_algorithm    = lincs                 ; algorithm to use
> > lincs_order     =  4
> > lincs_iter     =  2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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