[gmx-users] adding metal-bonding parameters to a force field
Justin Lemkul
jalemkul at vt.edu
Sat Apr 5 14:54:19 CEST 2014
On 4/5/14, 2:43 AM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:
> How will I define ZN(HOH) in aminoacids.hdb?
>
It's the same as water.
-Justin
>
> 2014-04-05 9:12 GMT+03:00 Ahmet yıldırım <ahmedo047 at gmail.com>:
>
>> You said "You likely need to put the Zn(HOH) complex in the same chain as
>> the protein, and this is probably another reason for creating a Zn(HOH)
>> residue and defining it as protein".
>> How will I do what you say?
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-05 7:13 GMT+03:00 Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 4/4/14, 11:58 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The distance I have set in specbond.dat must correct (req from Table 1).
>>>> I
>>>> get them from literature.Please see this link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=
>>>> web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%
>>>> 2Fpubmedcentralcanada.ca%2Fpicrender.cgi%3Fartinstid%
>>>> 3D1482211%26blobname%3DNIHMS61946-supplement-File002.pdf&ei=GXk_
>>>> U7XNG7GIyAOMvoBw&usg=AFQjCNGUfMCQZYegoRpLGg5D9GjpFsPCxQ&sig2=
>>>> MtbMKLDYZBbb6ACkGJjyMA&bvm=bv.64125504,d.bGQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You've posted this several times. I understand the source of the
>>> parameters. The problem is that equilibrium bond lengths and specbond.dat
>>> distances are not the same. Please see http://www.gromacs.org/
>>> Documentation/File_Formats/specbond.dat - if your input coordinates do
>>> not place the two atoms within 10% of the distance specified in
>>> specbond.dat, no bond is assigned. The value in specbond.dat has zero
>>> bearing on what the bond length should be.
>>>
>>>
>>> The His-Zn bonds are correctly generated (req from Table 1). Histidine
>>>> nitrogen atoms (NE2 atoms in His94 and His96, ND1 atom in His119) are
>>>> bound
>>>> to the Zn+2 ion. In addition Zn is bound to a water molecule.
>>>>
>>>> You said "create a residue that contains Zn(HOH)". Do I need it? I have
>>>> already charge of Zn and each atom of HOH.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think it is more straightforward, but you can approach it however you
>>> like.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am making these corrections in the right place. I am using Gromacs
>>>> 4.5.5
>>>> on Ubuntu 12.1. The modified forcefield is in /usr/share/gromacs/top.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, there's still something wrong, which is weird because the
>>> modifications are straightforward. But one thing is true - grompp doesn't
>>> throw fatal errors for no reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everything seems normal after pdb2gmx command:
>>>> ..
>>>> Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
>>>> Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
>>>> 11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
>>>> Special Atom Distance matrix:
>>>> ....
>>>> Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
>>>> Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
>>>> 11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
>>>> Special Atom Distance matrix:
>>>> HIS3 HIS3 HIS4 HIS4 HIS10 HIS10 HIS15
>>>> ND18 NE210 ND118 NE220 ND170 NE273 ND1108
>>>> HIS3 NE210 0.214
>>>> HIS4 ND118 0.719 0.694
>>>> HIS4 NE220 0.882 0.825 0.215
>>>> HIS10 ND170 1.247 1.294 1.536 1.561
>>>> HIS10 NE273 1.344 1.361 1.634 1.642 0.212
>>>> HIS15 ND1108 1.232 1.341 1.321 1.360 0.664 0.858
>>>> HIS15 NE2111 1.319 1.400 1.400 1.413 0.542 0.711 0.216
>>>> HIS17 ND1132 1.710 1.859 1.611 1.666 1.483 1.679 0.826
>>>> HIS17 NE2135 1.651 1.792 1.595 1.643 1.292 1.485 0.645
>>>> HIS36 ND1288 4.357 4.370 3.902 3.761 3.751 3.787 3.426
>>>> HIS36 NE2291 4.538 4.546 4.072 3.926 3.940 3.971 3.625
>>>> HIS64 ND1508 1.631 1.554 0.983 0.777 1.945 1.991 1.718
>>>> HIS64 NE2514 1.533 1.454 0.855 0.657 1.989 2.043 1.756
>>>> HIS94 ND1751 2.349 2.275 1.669 1.476 2.593 2.632 2.320
>>>> HIS94 NE2754 2.302 2.239 1.638 1.446 2.456 2.499 2.168
>>>> HIS96 ND1772 2.136 2.078 1.563 1.370 2.064 2.093 1.823
>>>> HIS96 NE2775 2.241 2.188 1.626 1.435 2.244 2.282 1.964
>>>> HIS107 ND1854 2.863 2.849 2.282 2.122 2.658 2.714 2.285
>>>> HIS107 NE2857 2.888 2.890 2.310 2.165 2.697 2.769 2.277
>>>> HIS119 ND1952 2.494 2.449 1.853 1.671 2.516 2.564 2.194
>>>> HIS119 NE2955 2.656 2.616 2.033 1.854 2.593 2.637 2.267
>>>> HIS122 ND1977 3.202 3.156 2.492 2.333 3.468 3.531 3.088
>>>> HIS122 NE2980 3.347 3.290 2.635 2.470 3.620 3.674 3.264
>>>> CYS206 SG1623 2.512 2.539 1.855 1.775 2.867 2.991 2.343
>>>> MET241 SD1909 1.925 1.785 1.463 1.255 2.023 1.986 2.036
>>>> HIS15 HIS17 HIS17 HIS36 HIS36 HIS64 HIS64
>>>> NE2111 ND1132 NE2135 ND1288 NE2291 ND1508 NE2514
>>>> HIS17 ND1132 0.988
>>>> HIS17 NE2135 0.794 0.214
>>>> HIS36 ND1288 3.349 3.219 3.202
>>>> HIS36 NE2291 3.545 3.426 3.409 0.214
>>>> HIS64 ND1508 1.712 1.928 1.909 3.206 3.349
>>>> HIS64 NE2514 1.770 1.953 1.946 3.393 3.537 0.213
>>>> HIS94 ND1751 2.306 2.383 2.392 2.897 3.008 0.728 0.830
>>>> HIS94 NE2754 2.148 2.222 2.225 2.724 2.843 0.693 0.835
>>>> HIS96 ND1772 1.767 1.980 1.941 2.549 2.686 0.692 0.899
>>>> HIS96 NE2775 1.924 2.048 2.031 2.530 2.660 0.717 0.905
>>>> HIS107 ND1854 2.246 2.158 2.164 1.771 1.903 1.494 1.665
>>>> HIS107 NE2857 2.255 2.072 2.095 1.744 1.886 1.582 1.739
>>>> HIS119 ND1952 2.166 2.184 2.189 2.391 2.511 0.952 1.112
>>>> HIS119 NE2955 2.229 2.236 2.237 2.178 2.295 1.147 1.317
>>>> HIS122 ND1977 3.099 2.924 2.986 2.774 2.844 1.669 1.727
>>>> HIS122 NE2980 3.268 3.128 3.184 2.858 2.914 1.789 1.847
>>>> CYS206 SG1623 2.425 1.975 2.093 2.940 3.078 1.436 1.431
>>>> MET241 SD1909 1.953 2.463 2.387 3.327 3.448 0.777 0.894
>>>> HIS94 HIS94 HIS96 HIS96 HIS107 HIS107 HIS119
>>>> ND1751 NE2754 ND1772 NE2775 ND1854 NE2857 ND1952
>>>> HIS94 NE2754 0.221
>>>> HIS96 ND1772 0.694 0.502
>>>> HIS96 NE2775 0.530 0.317 0.216
>>>> HIS107 ND1854 1.161 0.977 0.909 0.817
>>>> HIS107 NE2857 1.274 1.093 1.050 0.950 0.221
>>>> HIS119 ND1952 0.522 0.337 0.507 0.306 0.642 0.770
>>>> HIS119 NE2955 0.723 0.549 0.607 0.452 0.452 0.610 0.218
>>>> HIS122 ND1977 0.995 1.067 1.510 1.296 1.309 1.338 1.033
>>>> HIS122 NE2980 1.088 1.183 1.629 1.421 1.451 1.499 1.166
>>>> CYS206 SG1623 1.250 1.213 1.491 1.329 1.390 1.289 1.197
>>>> MET241 SD1909 1.070 1.062 0.908 1.023 1.787 1.947 1.283
>>>> HIS119 HIS122 HIS122 CYS206
>>>> NE2955 ND1977 NE2980 SG1623
>>>> HIS122 ND1977 1.073
>>>> HIS122 NE2980 1.200 0.219
>>>> CYS206 SG1623 1.294 1.177 1.388
>>>> MET241 SD1909 1.421 2.042 2.097 2.143
>>>>
>>>
>>> Note from the above output that no bond is being created between the Zn
>>> and any His residue. This is likely a consequence of the chains being
>>> processed separately. You likely need to put the Zn(HOH) complex in the
>>> same chain as the protein, and this is probably another reason for creating
>>> a Zn(HOH) residue and defining it as protein. Doing so circumvents all of
>>> these quirks.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> Opening force field file
>>>> /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
>>>> Checking for duplicate atoms....
>>>> Now there are 2059 atoms. Deleted 21 duplicates.
>>>> Now there are 258 residues with 4071 atoms
>>>> Chain time...
>>>>
>>>> Back Off! I just backed up protein_Protein_chain_A.itp to
>>>> ./#protein_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
>>>> Making bonds...
>>>> Number of bonds was 4134, now 4133
>>>> Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
>>>> Before cleaning: 10879 pairs
>>>> Before cleaning: 11505 dihedrals
>>>> Keeping all generated dihedrals
>>>> Making cmap torsions...There are 11505 dihedrals, 834 impropers, 7491
>>>> angles
>>>> 10798 pairs, 4133 bonds and 0 virtual sites
>>>> Total mass 29026.976 a.m.u.
>>>> Total charge -1.000 e
>>>> Writing topology
>>>>
>>>> Back Off! I just backed up posre_Protein_chain_A.itp to
>>>> ./#posre_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
>>>> Processing chain 2 'A' (2 atoms, 2 residues)
>>>> Warning: Starting residue ZN262 in chain not identified as
>>>> Protein/RNA/DNA.
>>>> Warning: Starting residue OWZ1001 in chain not identified as
>>>> Protein/RNA/DNA.
>>>> Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
>>>> This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
>>>> If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
>>>> behavior.
>>>> 11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
>>>> Special Atom Distance matrix:
>>>> ZN262
>>>> ZN1
>>>> OWZ1001 OZ2 0.188
>>>> Opening force field file
>>>> /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
>>>> Checking for duplicate atoms....
>>>> Now there are 2 residues with 4 atoms
>>>> Chain time...
>>>>
>>>> Back Off! I just backed up protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
>>>> ./#protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
>>>> Making bonds...
>>>> Number of bonds was 2, now 2
>>>> Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
>>>> Making cmap torsions...There are 0 dihedrals, 0 impropers, 1
>>>> angles
>>>> 0 pairs, 2 bonds and 0 virtual sites
>>>> Total mass 83.416 a.m.u.
>>>> Total charge 2.118 e
>>>> Writing topology
>>>>
>>>> Back Off! I just backed up posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
>>>> ./#posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
>>>> Processing chain 3 (310 atoms, 310 residues)
>>>> Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
>>>> This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
>>>> If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
>>>> behavior.
>>>> 11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
>>>> Opening force field file
>>>> /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
>>>> Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/
>>>> amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
>>>> Checking for duplicate atoms....
>>>> Now there are 310 residues with 930 atoms
>>>> Making bonds...
>>>> Number of bonds was 620, now 620
>>>> Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
>>>> Making cmap torsions...There are 0 dihedrals, 0 impropers, 310
>>>> angles
>>>> 0 pairs, 620 bonds and 0 virtual sites
>>>> Total mass 5584.960 a.m.u.
>>>> Total charge 0.000 e
>>>> Including chain 1 in system: 4071 atoms 258 residues
>>>> Including chain 2 in system: 4 atoms 2 residues
>>>> Including chain 3 in system: 930 atoms 310 residues
>>>> Now there are 5005 atoms and 570 residues
>>>> Total mass in system 34695.352 a.m.u.
>>>> Total charge in system 1.118 e
>>>> ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-04 23:28 GMT+03:00 Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/4/14, 1:46 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Justin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These parameters are present in literature. I think these
>>>>>> bonds/parameters
>>>>>> are correctly generated. You said "The previous topology output
>>>>>> suggests
>>>>>> not, because ZN is not renamed to ZNW". I do not know what to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably because the distance you have set in specbond.dat is
>>>>> incorrect.
>>>>> I'll ask again - are the His-Zn bonds correctly generated? If not,
>>>>> that's
>>>>> your problem. If they are, we'll have to do more digging. You can
>>>>> avoid
>>>>> the whole Zn-renaming and charge issue if you do as I suggested before
>>>>> and
>>>>> create a residue that contains Zn(HOH), not just ZN and then a separate
>>>>> residue for the water bound to it. Treat it as its own entity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I added the OZ-HZ bond in ffbonded.itp. Unfortunately I get the same
>>>>>
>>>>>> errors:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ERROR 1 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 33]:
>>>>>> No default Bond types
>>>>>> ERROR 2 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 34]:
>>>>>> No default Bond types
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ffbonded.itp:
>>>>>> Zn NA 1 0.20500 16744.0 ;modified
>>>>>> Zn NB 1 0.20500 16744.0 ;modified
>>>>>> Zn OZ 1 0.23000 16744.0 ;modified
>>>>>> OZ HZ 1 0.09572 221682.2 ;modified
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you making these corrections in the right place? Does your .top
>>>>> call
>>>>> your modified force field? Are you modifying files in $GMXLIB or in the
>>>>> working directory?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
>>>>> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>>>>>
>>>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
>>>>> School of Pharmacy
>>>>> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
>>>>> University of Maryland, Baltimore
>>>>> 20 Penn St.
>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21201
>>>>>
>>>>> jalemkul at outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441
>>>>> http://mackerell.umaryland.edu/~jalemkul
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Ahmet Yıldırım
>>
>
>
>
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Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
School of Pharmacy
Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
University of Maryland, Baltimore
20 Penn St.
Baltimore, MD 21201
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