[gmx-users] Problems with CO2-water simulation

Tsjerk Wassenaar tsjerkw at gmail.com
Mon Dec 8 08:41:24 CET 2014


Hi Sujith,

Yes, you're right :) Nonetheless, there's nothing intrinsically odd about a
positive potential energy. Still, I also think that there will be a
considerable portion of carbonate. I think it's good to be suspicious of
such reactions in classical simulations.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
On Dec 8, 2014 8:23 AM, "sujithkakkat ." <sujithks58 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Tsjerk,
>
>    Thanks for the response. I find your argument intuitive. But my
> simulations are at 30bars and 250K. Isn't the conditions supposed to play a
> role in making the dissolved state metastable.  My system at 250K and 30
> bar is like a closed coke can in the refrigerator. I believe there are no
> bubbles in the coke can until we open it to release the pressure.
>
>   Also, I have performed simulations with methane-water systems at similar
> conditions. There I found the potential energy is negative. Since , I guess
> CO2 to be more soluble in water, doesn't that make the positive potential
> energy in CO2-water case unusual.
>
> Regards,
> Sujith.
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar <tsjerkw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sujith,
> >
> > There is nothing special about positive potential energy. In this case it
> > explains why soft drinks gives bubbles: the CO2 wants to get out. In
> > addition, if it could, it would drive the system to HCO3-/H3O+, which is
> an
> > energetically more favorable way to store CO2 in water.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tsjerk
> > On Dec 8, 2014 6:50 AM, "sujithkakkat ." <sujithks58 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > >        I am trying to simulate a water-carbondioxide system at 250K and
> > > 30bar. The system consists of 85 CO2 and 1204 water molecules in a
> 3x3x4
> > nm
> > > box.
> > >
> > >        I used EPM2 and TIP4P potentials for CO2 and water following
> > > *Energy
> > > Environ. Sci., 2012, 5, 7033-7041* where the authors used the same.\
> > >
> > >        I am facing problems with the energy potential energy values
> which
> > > are very high and positive ( of the order 10^7).
> > >
> > >        I tried the same simulation with the OPLSAA topology of CO2
> which
> > I
> > > obtained from Dr. Justin Lemkul's tutorial on virtual site with TIP4P
> > > water. The problem still remains, potential energy values being highly
> > > positive.
> > >
> > >        I am totally stuck at this point and is unable to find how to
> > tackle
> > > the problem.
> > >
> > >        Firstly, I am wondering whether the positive potential energy is
> > > something to be worried about. If so, it would be great if you could
> > > provide me some direction in which I should think, or suggest me
> > something
> > > to read about on this issue.
> > >
> > >        Given below is the parameter file I used (I have redueced the
> step
> > > size due to a avoid persistent blowing up problem);
> > >
> > >  title                   =  co2--in-water
> > >
> > > ; Run parameters
> > > integrator            = md
> > > nsteps                = 2500000
> > > dt                       = 0.0002
> > >
> > > ; Output control
> > > nstxout               = 5000
> > > nstvout               = 5000
> > > nstenergy            = 5000
> > > nstlog                  = 5000
> > > nstxtcout             = 5000
> > >
> > > ; Bond parameters
> > > continuation               = no
> > > constraint_algorithm    = lincs
> > > constraints                  = all-bonds
> > > lincs_iter                     = 2
> > > lincs_order                   = 4
> > >
> > > ; Neighborsearching
> > > cutoff-scheme              = Verlet
> > > ns_type                        = grid
> > > nstlist                           = 10
> > > rcoulomb                       = 1.2
> > > rvdw                              = 1.2
> > >
> > > ; Electrostatics
> > > coulombtype                  = PME
> > > pme_order                      = 4
> > > fourierspacing                 = 0.16
> > >
> > > ; Temperature coupling is on
> > > tcoupl                             = Nose-Hoover
> > > tc-grps                            = CO2   SOL
> > > tau_t                               = 0.4   0.4
> > > ref_t                                = 250   250
> > >
> > > ; Pressure coupling is on
> > > pcoupl                              = Parrinello-Rahman
> > > pcoupltype                        = isotropic
> > > tau_p                                = 2.0
> > > ref_p                                 = 30.0
> > > compressibility                   = 4.5e-5
> > > refcoord_scaling                 = com
> > >
> > > ; Periodic boundary conditions
> > > pbc                                    = xyz
> > >
> > > ; Dispersion correction
> > > DispCorr                             = EnerPres
> > >
> > > ; Velocity generation
> > > gen_vel                               = no
> > > gen_temp                            = 250
> > > gen_seed                            = -1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The EPM2 topology file which I made is given below;
> > >
> > > [atomtypes]
> > > ; name        mass        charge     ptype    sigma    epsilon
> > >    D         22.0049       0.0000       A      0.0000   0.0000
> > >    CA         0.0000       0.6512       A      0.2757   0.2339
> > >    CO         0.0000      -0.3256       A      0.3033   0.6695
> > >
> > > [moleculetype]
> > > ; name  nrexcl
> > >   CO2    2
> > >
> > > [atoms]
> > > ; nr    type    resnr   residue    atom    cgnr   charge    mass
> > >   1       D       1      CO2        D1       1     0.0000    22.0049
> > >   2       D       1      CO2        D2       1     0.0000    22.0049
> > >   3      CA       1      CO2        CA       1     0.6512     0.0000
> > >   4      CO       1      CO2        OC1      1    -0.3256     0.0000
> > >   5      CO       1      CO2        OC2      1    -0.3256     0.0000
> > >
> > > [constraints]
> > > ; i   j   funct    doc
> > >   1   2     1      0.195948
> > >
> > > [virtual_sites2]
> > > ; i   j   k   funct   a
> > >   3   1   2     1     0.5
> > >   4   1   2     1     1.08638006
> > >   5   2   1     1     1.08638006
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sujith.
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