[gmx-users] OPLS force field issue....

Sidath Wijesinghe swijesi at g.clemson.edu
Tue Feb 4 04:14:38 CET 2014


Justin,,

i rechecked the opls/ff that i used and found some errors, after correction
them i got the .top file.
note that i was able to define the charge groups as well. when i use this
.top file with grompp,
now am getting 12 errors...as follwos..


ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 1399]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1400]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1415]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 1416]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
and so on...

i did the mapping as you suggested,as an example line 1399 in .top
as follwos...
 2     1    82    81     3  ( here 2 1 82 & 81 are carbon atoms)

and the mapping to all 12 errors.....then  modified the ffbonded.itp file's
diheadral block as follows...

C2     C1    C82    C81       3    0.00  0.00 0.00 0.00

so on....

then bond tyype block as follows....

C2     C1      1 0.00 0.00... so on....

added those atom types in atomtypes.atp like below...
C1
C2
C3
C4
C11
C12
C13................so on

after that when i do grompp  gives me a fatal error like

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 631

Fatal error:
Unknown bond_atomtype C1

could you please tell me what i have done wrong?

and at the same time....i tied delete those 12 lines in .top and do
grompp...it worked....but when i
did mdrun.....i am getting the signs of blowing up system....what i can do
over here....how can i get rid of these errors
and carry out my simulation?

Thank you!

Sidath





On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/22/14, 4:03 PM, Sidath Wijesinghe wrote:
>
>> 1. could you please tell me what does this mean ? " charge group is
>> inappropriately large"  the overall charge is appear to zero in my
>> topology. i
>> am little confused here.
>>
>>
> Manual section 3.4.2.  If you are using the Verlet cutoff scheme, it's not
> relevant, but if you are using the group scheme, it is critical to get the
> charge groups right or else the neighbor searching is totally broken.
>
>
>  2. if below atoms types in  represent C 1&11...so on  and those atom types
>> appear in the error....
>>
>> C    opls_240    0    12.011    3    C 0.142   C 0.142   C 0.142
>> C    opls_239    0    12.011    2    C 0.142   C 0.142 and if i cannot
>> see these
>> lines in  ffnonbonded.itp
>> do i need to add them in ffnonbonded.itp?
>>
>>
> You do not need to modify ffnonbonded.itp.  The modifications belong in
> ffbonded.itp or the topology itself.  The complication with OPLS-AA is that
> there are "nonbonded atom types" and "bonded atom types."  In
> ffnonbonded.itp, the first column is the nonbonded type and the second
> column is the bonded type, which is used in ffbonded.itp.  You will need to
> do some mapping between your atoms and their types to figure out which
> sequences of atom types have undefined dihedrals.  Those need to be added
> in [ dihedraltypes ] of ffbonded.itp or in the .top file directly.
>
> -Justin
>
>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 1/22/14, 1:06 PM, Sidath Wijesinghe wrote:
>>
>>            Justin,
>>
>>         i was able to generate  the .top file for 3 monomers by making the
>>         corresponding
>>         .rtp entry.
>>
>>         below   is a segment of my .rtp entry and thr .pdb file i used.
>>
>>         .rtp entry for first few atoms out of 208
>>
>>         [ UNK ]
>>            [ atoms ]
>>
>>         C1      opls_240        0       1
>>         C2      opls_145        -0.12   1
>>         C3      opls_240        0       1
>>         C4      opls_240        0       1
>>         C5      opls_158        -0.12   1
>>         C6      opls_158        -0.12   1
>>         C7      opls_158        -0.12   1
>>         C8      opls_158        -0.12   1
>>         C9      opls_158        -0.12   1
>>         C10     opls_158        -0.12   1
>>
>>
>>     I can almost guarantee that charge group is inappropriately large.
>>  Charge
>>     groups generally have no more than 3-4 atoms (see the manual).
>>
>>
>>            [ bonds ]
>>         C1      C2
>>         C1      C13
>>         C1      C82
>>         C2      C3
>>         C2      H28
>>         C3      C4
>>         C3      C5
>>         C4      C11
>>         C4      C21
>>         C5      C6
>>         C5      H29
>>
>>         and so on....
>>
>>         segment of my .pdb used.
>>         ATOM      1 C1    UNK     1     -0.3884 0.71623 0.01741  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      2 C2    UNK     1     0.52009 1.96858 0.02142  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      3 C3    UNK     1     2.05261  1.8016 0.02832  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      4 C4    UNK     1     2.67378 0.39693 0.04493  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      5 C5    UNK     1     3.00381 3.01293 0.02021  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      6 C6    UNK     1     2.43967 4.44371 0.06547  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      7 C7    UNK     1     3.74954 5.25409 0.04830  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      8 C8    UNK     1     3.66193 6.78984 0.08175  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM      9 C9    UNK     1     5.14612 7.20376 0.05800  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     10 C10   UNK     1     5.41193  8.7194 0.08617  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     11 C11   UNK     1     4.20533 0.24061 0.06162  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     12 C12   UNK     1     5.73704 0.08685 0.07550  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     13 C13   UNK     1     0.24354 -0.6927 0.01957  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     14 C14   UNK     1     -0.6215 -1.9681 0.00425  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>         ATOM     15 C15   UNK     1     -2.1484 -1.7855 0.06322  1.00
>>  0.00      UNK
>>
>>
>>         i was able to get the .gro and .top file using pdb2gmx
>>
>>         after that i was using grompp but i got an error message as
>> follows.
>>
>>         ERROR 254 [file topol.top, line 1941]:
>>             No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
>>
>>
>>         ERROR 255 [file topol.top, line 1942]:
>>             No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
>>
>>
>>         ERROR 256 [file topol.top, line 1943]:
>>             No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
>>         i was reading the gmx_users blogs and it specifies that i need to
>>         manually enter
>>         the parameters that have errors.
>>
>>         i am not clear with that. could you please tell me what i need to
>> do here. (
>>         when i look the lines regarding the errors  they
>>         are pointing out the diheadrals)
>>
>>
>>     You need to check those lines for what the atom types are for those
>> atoms.
>>     Parameters are not present in ffbonded.itp for that sequence of atoms
>> so you
>>     need to add suitable parameters.
>>
>>
>>     -Justin
>>
>>     --
>>     ==============================__====================
>>
>>
>>     Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
>>     Postdoctoral Fellow
>>
>>     Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
>>     School of Pharmacy
>>     Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
>>     University of Maryland, Baltimore
>>     20 Penn St.
>>     Baltimore, MD 21201
>>
>>     jalemkul at outerbanks.umaryland.__edu
>>     <mailto:jalemkul at outerbanks.umaryland.edu> | (410) 706-7441
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