[gmx-users] gromacs.org_gmx-users Digest, Vol 122, Issue 128

Andy Chao achao at energiaq.com
Mon Jun 30 17:11:01 CEST 2014


Dear gromacs users:

How would we be able to construct a force field for an ionic liquid?
Is there any methodology or reference that we can study?

Thanks!

Andy

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>    1. Re: CNT with BN co doping (Dr. Vitaly Chaban)
>    2. Re: How to calculate Box Vectors in the last line of the .gro
>       file? (Dr. Vitaly Chaban)
>    3. Re: Questions regarding converting .GRO files to .TOP	files
>       (Dr. Vitaly Chaban)
>    4. Re: CNT with BN co doping (akari karin)
>    5. Re: CNT with BN co doping (Dr. Vitaly Chaban)
>    6. Re: Questions regarding converting .GRO files to .TOP files
>       (Justin Lemkul)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:01:36 +0200
> From: "Dr. Vitaly Chaban" <vvchaban at gmail.com>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] CNT with BN co doping
> Message-ID:
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> Simulation of doped nanostructures is much more complicated than
> described below. You must account for the effect of your new fragments
> on electron density of the entire nanostructure. There is enough
> evidence that an additive approach fails here.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM, akari karin <j.akarikarin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I am trying to simulate carbon nanotubes with some doping. The way i am
>> doping my nanotube is by B-N codoping.
>>
>> i generated the structure but stuck with the topology. i know i need to
>> have the bonded and nonbonded interaction parameters for Boron and
>> Nitrogen
>> to do the work but i dont understand how i can get those.
>>
>> i am using the modified oplsaa force field for the simulation of CNT
>> structure. will the default parameters in the oplsaa be okay for my
>> simulation? if not how can i get the parameters?
>>
>> thanks in advance
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:04:47 +0200
> From: "Dr. Vitaly Chaban" <vvchaban at gmail.com>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate Box Vectors in the last line
> 	of the .gro file?
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> You need to set the box vectors with respect to system density or
> anticipated system density.
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Todor Antonijevic <t_antoni at uncg.edu>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I cannot obtain the last line (box vectors *1.82060 1.82060 1.82060*) of
>> the .gro file.
>>
>> *Can anyone explain me how the last line is calculated?*
>>
>> The example is from the manual:
>>
>> "MD of 2 waters, t= 0.0
>>
>>     6
>>     1WATER  OW1    1   0.126   1.624   1.679  0.1227 -0.0580  0.0434
>>     1WATER  HW2    2   0.190   1.661   1.747  0.8085  0.3191 -0.7791
>>     1WATER  HW3    3   0.177   1.568   1.613 -0.9045 -2.6469  1.3180
>>     2WATER  OW1    4   1.275   0.053   0.622  0.2519  0.3140 -0.1734
>>     2WATER  HW2    5   1.337   0.002   0.680 -1.0641 -1.1349  0.0257
>>     2WATER  HW3    6   1.326   0.120   0.568  1.9427 -0.8216 -0.0244
>>
>>    *1.82060 1.82060 1.82060*"
>>
>> Thank you very much
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:10:35 +0200
> From: "Dr. Vitaly Chaban" <vvchaban at gmail.com>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Questions regarding converting .GRO files to
> 	.TOP	files
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> I believe x2top works nice only when you have a single molecule in a
> structure file.
>
> Perhaps, the algorithm wants to connect molecules, which are not
> actually connected, and goes crazy, but it is just a guess.
>
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Andy Chao <achao at energiaq.com> wrote:
>> Dear GROMACS users:
>>
>> I have a few questions about converting the .GRO files to .TOP files.  I
>> first used Python to create a sheet of graphene layer by using the
>> following Python codes:
>>
>> from ase import *
>> from ase.structure import graphene_nanoribbon
>> from ase io.import*
>> gnr1 = graphene_nanoribbon(8,8, type='armchair')
>> write('graphene.pdb', gnr1, format='pdb')
>>
>> Second, I used the following codes to convert the PDB file to GRO file
>> for
>> the cathode layer:
>>
>> editconf -f graphene.pdb -o graphene_cathode.gro
>>
>> Third, I used the following codes to convert the PDB files to GRO file
>> for
>> the anode layer:
>>
>> editconf -f graphene.pdb -translate 0 5.0 -o graphene_anode.gro
>>
>> Fourth, I combined the cathode layer and the anode layer to one complete
>> structure according to the following code:
>>
>> genbox -cs graphene_cathode.gro -cp graphene_anode.gro -maxsol 5000 -box
>> 3
>> 1 3 -o electrodes.gro
>>
>> Fifth, I converted the electrode gro file to top file according to the
>> following code:
>>
>> g_x2top -f electrodes.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o device.top
>>
>> GROMACS showed that there are carbon atoms force field that can not be
>> found in the atomname2type.n2t file.
>>
>> part of the error message is shown as the following:
>>
>> Can not find forcefield for atom C-447 with 6 bonds
>> Can not find forcefield for atom C-448 with 5 bonds....
>>
>> Fatal error:
>>
>> Could only find a forcefield type for 364 out of 512 atoms.
>>
>> My atomname2type.n2t file consists of the following:
>>
>> C   opls_145  -0.12   12.011 3 C   0.150  C  0.150   H   0.108
>> C   opls_145  -0.12   12.011 3 C   0.133  C  0.150   O  0.140
>> C   opls_145   0.0     12.011 3 C   0.140  C  0.140   C  0.140
>> C   opls_145   0.0     12.011 2 C   0.140  C  0.140
>>
>> However, the TOP files for the cathode layer or the anode layer can be
>> converted from the GRO files without any error as the following:
>>
>> g_x2top -f graphene_cathode.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o graphene_cathode.top
>> g_x2top -f graphene_anode.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o graphene_anode.top
>>
>> can people explain why?  What is the reason behind the error message that
>> I
>> got when converting the GRO file of two combined layer of graphene to the
>> TOP file while the same atomname2type.n2t file is used?
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Andy
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 16:33:41 +0600
> From: akari karin <j.akarikarin at gmail.com>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org, vvchaban at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] CNT with BN co doping
> Message-ID:
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>
> thanks Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban for your reply.
>
> i already simulated the CNT without doping and i have developed a structure
> with the doped CNT.
>
> now if i add the dopant atoms in my forcefield file (for example, in my
> case i add nonbonded parameters to my ffnonbond.itp and bonded parameters
> to my bonded.itp and so on) will it be the correct way to do the
> simulation?
>
> and it would be very nice if you could explain the statement,
>
> "You must account for the effect of your new fragments on electron density
> of the entire nanostructure."
>
> a little bit further.
>
> thanks for your time
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban <vvchaban at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Simulation of doped nanostructures is much more complicated than
>> described below. You must account for the effect of your new fragments
>> on electron density of the entire nanostructure. There is enough
>> evidence that an additive approach fails here.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM, akari karin <j.akarikarin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I am trying to simulate carbon nanotubes with some doping. The way i am
>> > doping my nanotube is by B-N codoping.
>> >
>> > i generated the structure but stuck with the topology. i know i need to
>> > have the bonded and nonbonded interaction parameters for Boron and
>> Nitrogen
>> > to do the work but i dont understand how i can get those.
>> >
>> > i am using the modified oplsaa force field for the simulation of CNT
>> > structure. will the default parameters in the oplsaa be okay for my
>> > simulation? if not how can i get the parameters?
>> >
>> > thanks in advance
>> > --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:54:42 +0200
> From: "Dr. Vitaly Chaban" <vvchaban at gmail.com>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] CNT with BN co doping
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAPXdD+b3qaySJC0F7XUP6EGWWF4eYVj+WHUVyGWgaJ0LDOcz+g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I do not believe that your methodological solution is physically relevant
>
> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:33 PM, akari karin <j.akarikarin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> thanks Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban for your reply.
>>
>> i already simulated the CNT without doping and i have developed a
>> structure
>> with the doped CNT.
>>
>> now if i add the dopant atoms in my forcefield file (for example, in my
>> case
>> i add nonbonded parameters to my ffnonbond.itp and bonded parameters to
>> my
>> bonded.itp and so on) will it be the correct way to do the simulation?
>>
>> and it would be very nice if you could explain the statement,
>>
>> "You must account for the effect of your new fragments on electron
>> density
>> of the entire nanostructure."
>>
>> a little bit further.
>>
>> thanks for your time
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban <vvchaban at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Simulation of doped nanostructures is much more complicated than
>>> described below. You must account for the effect of your new fragments
>>> on electron density of the entire nanostructure. There is enough
>>> evidence that an additive approach fails here.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM, akari karin <j.akarikarin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I am trying to simulate carbon nanotubes with some doping. The way i
>>> > am
>>> > doping my nanotube is by B-N codoping.
>>> >
>>> > i generated the structure but stuck with the topology. i know i need
>>> > to
>>> > have the bonded and nonbonded interaction parameters for Boron and
>>> > Nitrogen
>>> > to do the work but i dont understand how i can get those.
>>> >
>>> > i am using the modified oplsaa force field for the simulation of CNT
>>> > structure. will the default parameters in the oplsaa be okay for my
>>> > simulation? if not how can i get the parameters?
>>> >
>>> > thanks in advance
>>> > --
>>> > Gromacs Users mailing list
>>> >
>>> > * Please search the archive at
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>>> > posting!
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>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:09:39 -0400
> From: Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Questions regarding converting .GRO files to
> 	.TOP files
> Message-ID: <53B15383.9020503 at vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> On 6/29/14, 11:46 PM, Andy Chao wrote:
>> Dear GROMACS users:
>>
>> I have a few questions about converting the .GRO files to .TOP files.  I
>> first used Python to create a sheet of graphene layer by using the
>> following Python codes:
>>
>> from ase import *
>> from ase.structure import graphene_nanoribbon
>> from ase io.import*
>> gnr1 = graphene_nanoribbon(8,8, type='armchair')
>> write('graphene.pdb', gnr1, format='pdb')
>>
>> Second, I used the following codes to convert the PDB file to GRO file
>> for
>> the cathode layer:
>>
>> editconf -f graphene.pdb -o graphene_cathode.gro
>>
>> Third, I used the following codes to convert the PDB files to GRO file
>> for
>> the anode layer:
>>
>> editconf -f graphene.pdb -translate 0 5.0 -o graphene_anode.gro
>>
>> Fourth, I combined the cathode layer and the anode layer to one complete
>> structure according to the following code:
>>
>> genbox -cs graphene_cathode.gro -cp graphene_anode.gro -maxsol 5000 -box
>> 3
>> 1 3 -o electrodes.gro
>>
>> Fifth, I converted the electrode gro file to top file according to the
>> following code:
>>
>> g_x2top -f electrodes.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o device.top
>>
>> GROMACS showed that there are carbon atoms force field that can not be
>> found in the atomname2type.n2t file.
>>
>> part of the error message is shown as the following:
>>
>> Can not find forcefield for atom C-447 with 6 bonds
>> Can not find forcefield for atom C-448 with 5 bonds....
>>
>> Fatal error:
>>
>> Could only find a forcefield type for 364 out of 512 atoms.
>>
>> My atomname2type.n2t file consists of the following:
>>
>> C   opls_145  -0.12   12.011 3 C   0.150  C  0.150   H   0.108
>> C   opls_145  -0.12   12.011 3 C   0.133  C  0.150   O  0.140
>> C   opls_145   0.0     12.011 3 C   0.140  C  0.140   C  0.140
>> C   opls_145   0.0     12.011 2 C   0.140  C  0.140
>>
>> However, the TOP files for the cathode layer or the anode layer can be
>> converted from the GRO files without any error as the following:
>>
>> g_x2top -f graphene_cathode.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o graphene_cathode.top
>> g_x2top -f graphene_anode.gro -ff cnt_oplsaa -o graphene_anode.top
>>
>> can people explain why?  What is the reason behind the error message that
>> I
>> got when converting the GRO file of two combined layer of graphene to the
>> TOP file while the same atomname2type.n2t file is used?
>>
>
> The .n2t file assigns bonds for any atoms that satisfy the specified
> distance
> criteria.  The error message indicates that you have some atoms that are
> within
> bonding range of an unphysical number of bonds.  Perhaps the layers are too
>
> close together or something, but the printed atom numbers should make it
> very
> easy to identify what is going on simply by visualizing the structure.
>
> -Justin
>
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>
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> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>
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> School of Pharmacy
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> University of Maryland, Baltimore
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>
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