[gmx-users] links errors at 700 or 800 K

Justin Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Thu May 21 19:52:45 CEST 2015



On 5/21/15 10:24 AM, Christopher Neale wrote:
> Dear Users:
>
> I have a system with an 8-mer peptide in a box of water. After a 2-ns npt equilibration, I run 100 ns of nvt at various temperatures (300-800 K) in preparation for a REMD simulation. I am using velocity langevin for temperature control.
>
> Everything is fine for <=600 K. Above that, I sometimes run into LINCS errors:
>
> ######
> Step 19126507, time 38253 (ps)  LINCS WARNING

I would say a 2-fs time step is destined to fail at such a high temperature. 
Almost certainly 1-fs (still in conjunction with constraints) would be more stable.

> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.069230, max 0.677838 (between atoms 49 and 50)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>   atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>       49     50   90.0    0.1111   0.1864      0.1111
>       46     48   90.0    0.1111   0.1722      0.1111
> ######
>
> with eventual crash:
>
> ######
> WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 57 and 59
> at distance 58.376 which is larger than the table limit 2.223 nm.
>
> Fatal error:
> 1 particles communicated to PME rank 0 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension y.
> This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
> ######
>
> I have verified this with three different force fields in gmx4.6.7 (charmm27, amber99sb-ildn, and opls). I have also seen this in gmx5 (only charmm27 force field tested so far in gmx5 -- the error snippits above are from that gmx 5 run).
>
> The gromacs 5 mdp file (with verlet cutoff scheme) is as follows:
>
> ######
> nsteps = 50000000
> constraints = all-bonds
> lincs-iter =  1
> lincs-order =  6
> constraint_algorithm =  lincs
> integrator = sd
> dt = 0.002
> tinit = 0
> nstcomm = 1
> nstxout = 0
> nstvout = 0
> nstfout = 0
> nstxtcout = 100000
> nstenergy = 100000
> nstlist = 10
> nstlog=0
> ns_type = grid
> cutoff-scheme = verlet
> vdwtype = cut-off
> rlist = 1.2
> rvdw = 1.2
> rvdw-switch = 1.0
> rcoulomb = 1.2
> vdw-modifier = force-switch
> coulombtype = PME
> ewald-rtol = 1e-5
> optimize_fft = yes
> fourierspacing = 0.12
> fourier_nx = 0
> fourier_ny = 0
> fourier_nz = 0
> pme_order = 4
> tc_grps             =  System
> tau_t               =  1.0
> ld_seed             =  -1
> ref_t = 800
> gen_temp = 800
> gen_vel = yes
> unconstrained_start = no
> gen_seed = -1
> Pcoupl = no
> ######
>
> I'm guessing that at high temperature I need to increase lincs-iter or lincs-order ? I'm asking because these errors are rare (1-3 out of 20 100-ns simulations will have such an error) so simply testing it is not that quick.
>

Possibly, but dt itself is the more likely culprit.  Simulating at 600-800 K is 
already taking a sledgehammer to the force field, anyway :)

> Very preliminary results suggest that gromacs5.0.5 with verlet cutoff scheme might have fewer such errors than gromacs 4.6.7 with the group cutoff scheme, possibly due to atoms moving out/in of the cutoff within the 20 fs between neighbourlist updates in the group scheme (3/20 crash with gmx4/group and 1/20 crashes with gmx5/verlet, but the variation between different force fields is on this order so I am not yet sure if the difference is significant).
>
> I will also note that I can get rid of these crashes by using constraints = h-bonds instead of constraints = all-bonds, though it has always been a mystery to me why constraints = h-bonds is stable (even at 300 K) with a 2 fs timestep so I am cautious about using that combination.
>

I suppose that means you're getting distortion of bonds between heavy atoms, 
which is what causes the LINCS failures.  Any unphysical geometries in these 
"constraints = h-bonds" runs?

-Justin

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