[gmx-users] TPI and chemical potential

Gmx QA gmxquestions at gmail.com
Tue Aug 16 12:45:39 CEST 2016


Hi Joao

Thank you for your reply. My mdp-file is pasted below:

integrator  = tpi
emtol         = 1000.0
emstep      = 0.01
nsteps        = 50000

nstlist         = 1
cutoff-scheme   = group
ns_type         = grid
coulombtype     = pme
rcoulomb        = 1.0
rvdw            = 1.0
pbc             = xyz
nstxtcout = 5000

; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl                 = V-rescale
tc-grps                  = system
tau_t                      = 0.1
ref_t                        = 298

; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl                      = no
pcoupltype                          = isotropic
tau_p                               = 2.0
ref_p                   = 1.0
compressibility     = 4.5e-5

ld_seed = -1

I am using the amber99sb forcefield for tip3p, so I believe the 1.0 nm
cutoffs to be correct?

I have tried a couple different values for the number of insertions, and
for some frames different values sometimes give non-inf results, but for
the most part it does not seem to make a difference.

1 ns is short, I agree, but since the value of <mu> (which I take to be the
excess chemical potential I am after) immediately goes to inf when the
first mu=inf appears, extending does not make sense to me? Is the chemical
potential reported elsewhere as well?

Thanks
/PK

2016-08-16 12:35 GMT+02:00 João M. Damas <jmdamas at itqb.unl.pt>:

> Yes, all water atoms can't be with coordinates 0,0,0. I don't know how did
> that even work... Weird.
>
> 1 ns is very short time scale. Also, how many insertions are you trying per
> frame? That could also help improve the sampling.
>
> The inf values are normal as it just means that the water is too structured
> and it's hard to insert a new water from the sampling point of view.
>
> Can you post the .mdp you used for the tpi?
>
> João
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gmx QA <gmxquestions at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Please - anyone?
> >
> > I gathered from the mail-list that maybe the entire molecule (water in
> this
> > case) should be centered on origo (rather than having all atoms at
> (0,0,0),
> > but this gives me only a lot of inf for the chemical potential.
> >
> > How can I calculate the excess chemical potential of water using TPI in
> > gromacs?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2016-08-15 13:31 GMT+02:00 Gmx QA <gmxquestions at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Dear list
> > >
> > > I am trying to teach myself how the test particle method for excess
> > > chemical potential calculations work. To this end, I created a small
> > system
> > > of about 900 water molecules (TIP3p), and simulated for 1 ns.
> > >
> > > I then set up files for inserting an extra water molecule to calculate
> > mu,
> > > the chemical potential.
> > >
> > > The end of my tpi_start.gro looks like this:
> > > <snip>
> > >   884SOL     OW 2650   2.466   0.788   2.747 -0.5599 -0.0387  0.0570
> > >   884SOL    HW1 2651   2.529   0.835   2.802  0.0024 -0.9901  0.2261
> > >   884SOL    HW2 2652   2.506   0.703   2.732 -1.4472 -0.3598 -0.5022
> > >   885SOL     OW 2653   0.000   0.000   0.000  0.0000  0.0000  0.0000
> > >   885SOL    HW1 2654   0.000   0.000   0.000  0.0000  0.0000  0.0000
> > >   885SOL    HW2 2655   0.000   0.000   0.000  0.0000  0.0000  0.0000
> > >    3.01188   3.01188   3.01188
> > >
> > > So I think this last water molecule is the one to be inserted. The
> > > topology was also updated accordingly.
> > >
> > > I then made a rerun like this:
> > >
> > > $ gmx mdrun -v -deffnm tpi -rerun md.xtc
> > >
> > > And the output is a series of lines like this:
> > >
> > > Reading frame     180 time  900.000   mu  8.924e+00 <mu>  7.240e+00
> > > mu  7.671e+00 <mu>  7.242e+00
> > > mu  6.987e+00 <mu>  7.241e+00
> > > mu  7.010e+00 <mu>  7.239e+00
> > > mu  7.691e+00 <mu>  7.241e+00
> > > mu  7.439e+00 <mu>  7.242e+00
> > > mu  6.757e+00 <mu>  7.240e+00
> > > mu  8.114e+00 <mu>  7.243e+00
> > > mu  7.173e+00 <mu>  7.243e+00
> > > mu  8.768e+00 <mu>  7.249e+00
> > > Reading frame     190 time  950.000   mu  7.799e+00 <mu>  7.252e+00
> > > mu  9.284e+00 <mu>  7.259e+00
> > > mu  8.103e+00 <mu>  7.262e+00
> > > mu  7.835e+00 <mu>  7.265e+00
> > > mu  7.321e+00 <mu>  7.265e+00
> > > mu  7.576e+00 <mu>  7.267e+00
> > > mu  9.348e+00 <mu>  7.274e+00
> > > mu  7.021e+00 <mu>  7.272e+00
> > > mu  7.162e+00 <mu>  7.272e+00
> > > mu  7.695e+00 <mu>  7.274e+00
> > > Reading frame     200 time 1000.000   mu  7.104e+00 <mu>  7.273e+00
> > >
> > > Now, is <mu> here the average computed chemical potential? What is the
> > TPI
> > > energy distribution being reported in the tpi.xvg-file?
> > >
> > > I tried to google for the chemical potential of water and according to
> > > e.g. [1] (page 13) it should be around -23.5 kJ/mol. I would really
> > > appreciate if someone could comment on this, as I need to understand it
> > > before moving on to more relevant (for me) systems….
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > /PK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] Chemical potential of liquids and mixtures via Adaptive Resolution
> > ...
> > > <https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&
> > cd=21&ved=0ahUKEwj-7-2gqMPOAhVFWiwKHdp4DYY4FBAWCBww
> > AA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fopus4.kobv.de%2Fopus4-zib%2Ffiles%
> > 2F5097%2FZIB-Report_14-25.pdf&usg=AFQjCNECRk9dif8TGxKJeeztHV6T_
> > FmVuw&sig2=-vsjUB9HRdlcnt4vyKWcbw>
> > >
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