[gmx-users] Zwitterionic amino acid topology parameters in CHARMM

Justin Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Wed Oct 31 21:52:55 CET 2018



On 10/31/18 4:23 PM, rose rahmani wrote:
>   i've tried it.But the results are exactly the same as i didn't apply
> patches. it doesn't make any difference. So what is the purpose of using
> -ter (COO- & NH3) when results are same in my case?

I don't follow. Topology generation requires the selection of terminal 
patching of some sort, either if pdb2gmx does it for you (choosing 
defaults) or if you do it.

-Justin

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 22:49 Justin Lemkul, <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/31/18 2:56 PM, rose rahmani wrote:
>>> Thank you, but I couldn't understand you exactly. My structures already
>>> have NH3+ and COO- . You mean everything is right? That's normal, yes?
>> I was stating which terminal patches you should choose with pdb2gmx to
>> transform the Phe .rtp topology into that of a zwitterion.
>>
>> -Justin
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 21:43 Justin Lemkul, <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/31/18 2:01 PM, rose rahmani wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to use zwitterionic form of AAs in CHARMM ff. I gave structure
>> in
>>>>> Discovery studio and then use pdb2gmx to get its topology and ...
>> files.
>>>>> But the number of atoms in topol.top and also some atom's partial
>> charges
>>>>> are different from atoms and charges in aminoacids.rtp
>>>>> For example, in the case of phenylalanine,
>>>>> this is topology file after pdb2gmx:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ atoms ]
>>>>> ;   nr       type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr     charge       mass
>>>> typeB
>>>>>      chargeB      massB
>>>>> ; residue   1 PHE rtp PHE  q  0.0
>>>>>         1        NH3      1    PHE      N      1       -0.3     14.007
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot -0.3
>>>>>         2         HC      1    PHE     H1      2       0.33      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.03
>>>>>         3         HC      1    PHE     H2      3       0.33      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.36
>>>>>         4         HC      1    PHE     H3      4       0.33      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.69
>>>>>         5        CT1      1    PHE     CA      5       0.21     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.9
>>>>>         6         HB      1    PHE     HA      6        0.1      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>         7        CT2      1    PHE     CB      7      -0.18     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.82
>>>>>         8         HA      1    PHE    HB1      8       0.09      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.91
>>>>>         9         HA      1    PHE    HB2      9       0.09      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        10         CA      1    PHE     CG     10          0     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        11         CA      1    PHE    CD1     11     -0.115     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.885
>>>>>        12         HP      1    PHE    HD1     12      0.115      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        13         CA      1    PHE    CE1     13     -0.115     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.885
>>>>>        14         HP      1    PHE    HE1     14      0.115      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        15         CA      1    PHE     CZ     15     -0.115     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.885
>>>>>        16         HP      1    PHE     HZ     16      0.115      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        17         CA      1    PHE    CD2     17     -0.115     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.885
>>>>>        18         HP      1    PHE    HD2     18      0.115      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        19         CA      1    PHE    CE2     19     -0.115     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.885
>>>>>        20         HP      1    PHE    HE2     20      0.115      1.008
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1
>>>>>        21         CC      1    PHE      C     21       0.34     12.011
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 1.34
>>>>>        22         OC      1    PHE    OT1     22      -0.67     15.999
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0.67
>>>>>        23         OC      1    PHE    OT2     23      -0.67     15.999
>>   ;
>>>>> qtot 0
>>>>>
>>>>> and this is .rtp file for PHE:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ PHE ]
>>>>>     [ atoms ]
>>>>>            N       NH1     -0.47   0
>>>>>            HN      H       0.31    1
>>>>>            CA      CT1     0.07    2
>>>>>            HA      HB      0.09    3
>>>>>            CB      CT2     -0.18   4
>>>>>            HB1     HA      0.09    5
>>>>>            HB2     HA      0.09    6
>>>>>            CG      CA      0.00    7
>>>>>            CD1     CA      -0.115  8
>>>>>            HD1     HP      0.115   9
>>>>>            CE1     CA      -0.115  10
>>>>>            HE1     HP      0.115   11
>>>>>            CZ      CA      -0.115  12
>>>>>            HZ      HP      0.115   13
>>>>>            CD2     CA      -0.115  14
>>>>>            HD2     HP      0.115   15
>>>>>            CE2     CA      -0.115  16
>>>>>            HE2     HP      0.115   17
>>>>>            C       C       0.51    18
>>>>>            O       O       -0.51   19
>>>>> so as you see there O and 2 H more...  . I know that's because of COO
>>>> group
>>>>> and HH.. but which of them are the real structure of zwitterionic form
>> of
>>>>>     amino acid in force field? are both true? I would be appreciated if
>> you
>>>>> can help me.
>>>> Just apply the normal NH3+ and COO- terminal patches. There are no
>>>> special zwitterion patches like in some force fields (OPLS, etc.)
>>>> Naturally, the .rtp will change - that is the function of the .tdb
>> entries.
>>>> -Justin
>>>>
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Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
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Virginia Tech Department of Biochemistry

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