[gmx-users] RMSD analysis of protein-ligand complex

Quin K profiles.ke at gmail.com
Sat Oct 5 17:59:43 CEST 2019


Thank you.

I got following when I analysed Ligand RMSD protein backbone as east square
fit.
Graph <https://photos.app.goo.gl/JZJaLt1BxJi1qgwV7>
Can you please comment why there's high fluctuation after like 23 ns?
What could this mean?

Thanks
Regards!

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:08 PM Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On 10/5/19 11:36 AM, Quin K wrote:
> > OK thanks.
> > What should I pick for least square fit in following instances for
> example.
> > *RMSD of*
> > 1. protein backbone+ligand
> > 2. protein backbone
> > 3. lingad only
>
> I've already answered that. And again, it always depends on the question
> you are asking. You want the change in a structure relative to
> something. What is that something and how can you justify (to yourself
> and your reviewers!) that choice?
>
> -Justin
>
> > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 8:56 PM Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 10/5/19 11:24 AM, Quin K wrote:
> >>> Thank you!
> >>> How important is the least square fit in these RMSD calculations?
> >> Very; it determines how to interpret the result.
> >>
> >>> Or should I just pick system for least square fit all time?
> >> You should never pick "System" for a fit.
> >>
> >> -Justin
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 8:45 PM Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/5/19 11:11 AM, Quin K wrote:
> >>>>> To see if complex is stable and to see how it fluctuate in the
> binding
> >>>>> site.
> >>>> Stability of the complex can mean multiple things. If you want to show
> >>>> that the protein structure is stable in the presence of the ligand,
> you
> >>>> would compute the RMSD of the protein (probably backbone) and compare
> >>>> the result against that of an apo simulation. If you want to show that
> >>>> the complex is stable in terms of the association of the protein and
> >>>> ligand, that's not something you do via RMSD; you compute distances,
> >>>> angles, etc. related to the interactions of the protein that hold the
> >>>> ligand in the active site.
> >>>>
> >>>> You need to define what "it" is in the context of fluctuations.
> >>>> Fluctuation of the ligand in the binding can be computed by
> calculating
> >>>> RMSD of the ligand after a fit to the protein (to get relative
> motion).
> >>>> You can also do RMSF (e.g. of binding site residues, again to be
> >>>> compared against apo data for context/control).
> >>>>
> >>>> -Justin
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 8:33 PM Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/5/19 10:53 AM, Quin K wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *What should I pick for RMSD analysis of protein ligand complex? *
> >>>>>>> *What other analysis can be done for protein ligand complex? *
> >>>>>>> Following are the options I have for least square fit and for RMSD
> >>>>>>> calculation.
> >>>>>>> MPPA is the ligand I used.
> >>>>>>> Group     0 (         System) has 50085 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     1 (        Protein) has  4590 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     2 (      Protein-H) has  2307 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     3 (        C-alpha) has   282 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     4 (       Backbone) has   846 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     5 (      MainChain) has  1127 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     6 (   MainChain+Cb) has  1396 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     7 (    MainChain+H) has  1399 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     8 (      SideChain) has  3191 elements
> >>>>>>> Group     9 (    SideChain-H) has  1180 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    10 (    Prot-Masses) has  4590 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    11 (    non-Protein) has 45495 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    12 (          Other) has    31 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    13 (            MPPA) has    31 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    14 (             NA) has     2 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    15 (          Water) has 45462 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    16 (            SOL) has 45462 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    17 (      non-Water) has  4623 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    18 (            Ion) has     2 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    19 (            MPPA) has    31 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    20 (             NA) has     2 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    21 ( Water_and_ions) has 45464 elements
> >>>>>>> Group    22 (    Protein_MPPA) has  4621 elements
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks & regards!
> >>>>>> What is your objective in calculating RMSD?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Justin
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