[gmx-developers] Mails rejected with "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed"

[Roland Schulz]

Hi,

if it is difficult to re-enable HTML emails without also re-enable
attachments and getting problems with Uppsala IT, I would like to
suggest (again) to use a hosted solution. That should reduce the admin
effort and increase the features: e.g. better spam filter and better
web archive with better searching, sorting, sticky topics and so on.
We could use either normal google groups (by forwarding the emails
from e.g. gmx-users at gromacs.org to gmx-users at googlegroups.com) or by
using "Google Groups for Business" which would be $5/month. I tested
it a bit with my google apps account and it seems it would be easy to
migrate.

I'm also wondering whether a mailing list is the best format for
gmx-users. I personally prefer the stackexchange format. And thus I
would think it would be better to have gromacs user questions on there
with all questions tagged with "gromacs". Probably the best site would
be http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/. I think the two biggest
advantages of that format would be: 1) it would automatically build up
a FAQ, 2) more general questions about MD would maybe attract also
users of other MD packages.

Roland

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Erik Lindahl <erik at kth.se> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't have anything against HTML mails at all, but after several
> complaints by Uppsala IT admins about catching viruses and spam that got
> through the list by increasingly smart tricks, the obvious solution was to
> disable it so we simply did not have to worry about getting mail shut down.
>
> Right this minute the webserver on the mail machine is down, but I am
> perfectly fine with somebody configuring the webserver to make sure it works
> well with HTML and gmail - provided that person goes through it in detail
> and makes sure there are no loopholes that suddenly re-enable spam or
> viruses.  Berk & Rossen should have the password - I'll be a bit busy and
> traveling over the weekend!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Erik
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>
> On 08/23/2012 08:45 AM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>
> On 2012-08-21 22.08, Szilárd Páll wrote:
>
> I'm quite puzzled why is the gmx-users still rejecting non-plain text
> messages. There has not been a single opinion in favor of keeping the
> mailing list crippled.
>
>
> Erik wrote already in this thread why he changed the setting.
>
> I think most of us agree on not allowing attachments.
> But not allowing html makes quickly replying to the mailing list cumbersome,
> which makes the mailing list less useful, as less people will reply.
> All developers, except for Erik who didn't veto it either, are in favor of
> allowing
> html content. So I would ask to allow html content again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Berk
>
>
> So  once again, Rossen (or someone else with the appropriate credentials),
> please revert the setting!
>
>
> Check with him on that.
>
> Rossen
>
>
> --
> Szilárd
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/20/2012 01:55 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/19/12 6:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/07/2012 11:24 PM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently the Gromacs mailing lists have been used for sending spam and
>>>>> viruses, and thus now only plain text messages are accepted.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have received rejected mails saying "The message's content type
>>>>> was not
>>>>> explicitly allowed" it means that you have used in your mail special
>>>>> styles or
>>>>> formatting (e.g. bold typeface, colors etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Check your email client settings about how to send messages as plain
>>>>> text,
>>>>> e.g. in GMail make sure to click on "Compose -> Plain Text". Check also
>>>>> whether a formatted signature is added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attachments are also not allowed but you could include links for
>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rossen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bump.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy banning attachments (there's lots of free upload space out
>>>> there), but
>>>> think that explicitly requiring plain text email is a significant
>>>> barrier to
>>>> participation. Some web mail clients don't permit a non-HTML mime type -
>>>> that's
>>>> not our fault but we have to live in that jungle. Some people will walk
>>>> away
>>>> without bothering to find out if they can configure plain text email.
>>>> Others
>>>> will judge the technical competence of the team on their ability to run
>>>> the
>>>> mailing list. If we need to outsource it somewhere, we should do that.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Mark here.  It seems to me that traffic to the list has been
>>> down for a couple of weeks relative to normal, but there may be other
>>> factors for that.  What I do know is that I'm getting increasing amounts of
>>> emails to my personal inbox starting with "I can't post to the Gromacs list,
>>> so I'm sending this to you..." That's an increased burden I'm not willing to
>>> bear.  I'm all for community contributions (you all know that ;) but as soon
>>> as it becomes my responsibility to handle Gromacs issues, I'm less inclined.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>> I think everyone agrees that we need to accept html mails.
>>
>> The question is if we need some filter and when Rossen, or someone else,
>> has time to fix this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Berk
>>
>>
>>
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