[gmx-developers] Mails rejected with "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed"

[Rossen Apostolov]

Hi,

+1

I support moving to a hosted solution, and I also like the stackexchange 
format a lot!

Is there a way to import the archives into google groups? Import won't 
work for stackexchange.

Rossen

On 8/25/12 10:56 PM, Roland Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if it is difficult to re-enable HTML emails without also re-enable
> attachments and getting problems with Uppsala IT, I would like to
> suggest (again) to use a hosted solution. That should reduce the admin
> effort and increase the features: e.g. better spam filter and better
> web archive with better searching, sorting, sticky topics and so on.
> We could use either normal google groups (by forwarding the emails
> from e.g. gmx-users at gromacs.org to gmx-users at googlegroups.com) or by
> using "Google Groups for Business" which would be $5/month. I tested
> it a bit with my google apps account and it seems it would be easy to
> migrate.
>
> I'm also wondering whether a mailing list is the best format for
> gmx-users. I personally prefer the stackexchange format. And thus I
> would think it would be better to have gromacs user questions on there
> with all questions tagged with "gromacs". Probably the best site would
> be http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/. I think the two biggest
> advantages of that format would be: 1) it would automatically build up
> a FAQ, 2) more general questions about MD would maybe attract also
> users of other MD packages.
>
> Roland
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Erik Lindahl <erik at kth.se> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't have anything against HTML mails at all, but after several
>> complaints by Uppsala IT admins about catching viruses and spam that got
>> through the list by increasingly smart tricks, the obvious solution was to
>> disable it so we simply did not have to worry about getting mail shut down.
>>
>> Right this minute the webserver on the mail machine is down, but I am
>> perfectly fine with somebody configuring the webserver to make sure it works
>> well with HTML and gmail - provided that person goes through it in detail
>> and makes sure there are no loopholes that suddenly re-enable spam or
>> viruses.  Berk & Rossen should have the password - I'll be a bit busy and
>> traveling over the weekend!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/23/2012 08:45 AM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>>
>> On 2012-08-21 22.08, Szilárd Páll wrote:
>>
>> I'm quite puzzled why is the gmx-users still rejecting non-plain text
>> messages. There has not been a single opinion in favor of keeping the
>> mailing list crippled.
>>
>>
>> Erik wrote already in this thread why he changed the setting.
>>
>> I think most of us agree on not allowing attachments.
>> But not allowing html makes quickly replying to the mailing list cumbersome,
>> which makes the mailing list less useful, as less people will reply.
>> All developers, except for Erik who didn't veto it either, are in favor of
>> allowing
>> html content. So I would ask to allow html content again.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Berk
>>
>>
>> So  once again, Rossen (or someone else with the appropriate credentials),
>> please revert the setting!
>>
>>
>> Check with him on that.
>>
>> Rossen
>>
>>
>> --
>> Szilárd
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>>> On 07/20/2012 01:55 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/12 6:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
>>>>> On 5/07/2012 11:24 PM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently the Gromacs mailing lists have been used for sending spam and
>>>>>> viruses, and thus now only plain text messages are accepted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have received rejected mails saying "The message's content type
>>>>>> was not
>>>>>> explicitly allowed" it means that you have used in your mail special
>>>>>> styles or
>>>>>> formatting (e.g. bold typeface, colors etc.).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your email client settings about how to send messages as plain
>>>>>> text,
>>>>>> e.g. in GMail make sure to click on "Compose -> Plain Text". Check also
>>>>>> whether a formatted signature is added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attachments are also not allowed but you could include links for
>>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rossen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bump.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy banning attachments (there's lots of free upload space out
>>>>> there), but
>>>>> think that explicitly requiring plain text email is a significant
>>>>> barrier to
>>>>> participation. Some web mail clients don't permit a non-HTML mime type -
>>>>> that's
>>>>> not our fault but we have to live in that jungle. Some people will walk
>>>>> away
>>>>> without bothering to find out if they can configure plain text email.
>>>>> Others
>>>>> will judge the technical competence of the team on their ability to run
>>>>> the
>>>>> mailing list. If we need to outsource it somewhere, we should do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I agree with Mark here.  It seems to me that traffic to the list has been
>>>> down for a couple of weeks relative to normal, but there may be other
>>>> factors for that.  What I do know is that I'm getting increasing amounts of
>>>> emails to my personal inbox starting with "I can't post to the Gromacs list,
>>>> so I'm sending this to you..." That's an increased burden I'm not willing to
>>>> bear.  I'm all for community contributions (you all know that ;) but as soon
>>>> as it becomes my responsibility to handle Gromacs issues, I'm less inclined.
>>>>
>>>> -Justin
>>>>
>>> I think everyone agrees that we need to accept html mails.
>>>
>>> The question is if we need some filter and when Rossen, or someone else,
>>> has time to fix this.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Berk
>>>
>>>
>>>
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