[gmx-developers] Mails rejected with "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed"

[Roland Schulz]

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Rossen Apostolov <rossen at kth.se> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> +1
>
> I support moving to a hosted solution, and I also like the stackexchange
> format a lot!
>
> Is there a way to import the archives into google groups? Import won't
> work for stackexchange.
They don't have a build in import.
https://github.com/wojdyr/fityk/wiki/MigrationToGoogleGroups is an
option. With the limit of 300msg/5min (=3600msg/hrs)
(http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2524618) we
could import several years of archive in a day.

Roland

>
> Rossen
>
> On 8/25/12 10:56 PM, Roland Schulz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> if it is difficult to re-enable HTML emails without also re-enable
>> attachments and getting problems with Uppsala IT, I would like to
>> suggest (again) to use a hosted solution. That should reduce the admin
>> effort and increase the features: e.g. better spam filter and better
>> web archive with better searching, sorting, sticky topics and so on.
>> We could use either normal google groups (by forwarding the emails
>> from e.g. gmx-users at gromacs.org to gmx-users at googlegroups.com) or by
>> using "Google Groups for Business" which would be $5/month. I tested
>> it a bit with my google apps account and it seems it would be easy to
>> migrate.
>>
>> I'm also wondering whether a mailing list is the best format for
>> gmx-users. I personally prefer the stackexchange format. And thus I
>> would think it would be better to have gromacs user questions on there
>> with all questions tagged with "gromacs". Probably the best site would
>> be http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/. I think the two biggest
>> advantages of that format would be: 1) it would automatically build up
>> a FAQ, 2) more general questions about MD would maybe attract also
>> users of other MD packages.
>>
>> Roland
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Erik Lindahl <erik at kth.se> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't have anything against HTML mails at all, but after several
>>> complaints by Uppsala IT admins about catching viruses and spam that got
>>> through the list by increasingly smart tricks, the obvious solution was to
>>> disable it so we simply did not have to worry about getting mail shut down.
>>>
>>> Right this minute the webserver on the mail machine is down, but I am
>>> perfectly fine with somebody configuring the webserver to make sure it works
>>> well with HTML and gmail - provided that person goes through it in detail
>>> and makes sure there are no loopholes that suddenly re-enable spam or
>>> viruses.  Berk & Rossen should have the password - I'll be a bit busy and
>>> traveling over the weekend!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/23/2012 08:45 AM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2012-08-21 22.08, Szilárd Páll wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm quite puzzled why is the gmx-users still rejecting non-plain text
>>> messages. There has not been a single opinion in favor of keeping the
>>> mailing list crippled.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erik wrote already in this thread why he changed the setting.
>>>
>>> I think most of us agree on not allowing attachments.
>>> But not allowing html makes quickly replying to the mailing list cumbersome,
>>> which makes the mailing list less useful, as less people will reply.
>>> All developers, except for Erik who didn't veto it either, are in favor of
>>> allowing
>>> html content. So I would ask to allow html content again.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Berk
>>>
>>>
>>> So  once again, Rossen (or someone else with the appropriate credentials),
>>> please revert the setting!
>>>
>>>
>>> Check with him on that.
>>>
>>> Rossen
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Szilárd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Berk Hess <hess at kth.se> wrote:
>>>> On 07/20/2012 01:55 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/19/12 6:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/07/2012 11:24 PM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently the Gromacs mailing lists have been used for sending spam and
>>>>>>> viruses, and thus now only plain text messages are accepted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have received rejected mails saying "The message's content type
>>>>>>> was not
>>>>>>> explicitly allowed" it means that you have used in your mail special
>>>>>>> styles or
>>>>>>> formatting (e.g. bold typeface, colors etc.).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check your email client settings about how to send messages as plain
>>>>>>> text,
>>>>>>> e.g. in GMail make sure to click on "Compose -> Plain Text". Check also
>>>>>>> whether a formatted signature is added.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attachments are also not allowed but you could include links for
>>>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rossen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy banning attachments (there's lots of free upload space out
>>>>>> there), but
>>>>>> think that explicitly requiring plain text email is a significant
>>>>>> barrier to
>>>>>> participation. Some web mail clients don't permit a non-HTML mime type -
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> not our fault but we have to live in that jungle. Some people will walk
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> without bothering to find out if they can configure plain text email.
>>>>>> Others
>>>>>> will judge the technical competence of the team on their ability to run
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mailing list. If we need to outsource it somewhere, we should do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Mark here.  It seems to me that traffic to the list has been
>>>>> down for a couple of weeks relative to normal, but there may be other
>>>>> factors for that.  What I do know is that I'm getting increasing amounts of
>>>>> emails to my personal inbox starting with "I can't post to the Gromacs list,
>>>>> so I'm sending this to you..." That's an increased burden I'm not willing to
>>>>> bear.  I'm all for community contributions (you all know that ;) but as soon
>>>>> as it becomes my responsibility to handle Gromacs issues, I'm less inclined.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>
>>>> I think everyone agrees that we need to accept html mails.
>>>>
>>>> The question is if we need some filter and when Rossen, or someone else,
>>>> has time to fix this.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Berk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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