[gmx-users] Re: atom types, residue info for D-amino acids

Daan van Aalten vdava at davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
Sat May 31 10:24:00 CEST 2003


Regina

I'm afraid you are missing the point! You are confusing atom NAMES
with atom TYPES, and you are thinking GROMACS won't treat your
peptide properly, simply because PRODRG doesn't call the residues PHE PRO
etc. FORGET for a moment that your peptide is a peptide, but think of it
as a molecule with a random collection of atoms, with random names, with
the residue name UNK. You put this into PRODRG. Despite the random names,
PRODRG recognizes that the CHEMISTRY of these atoms can be captured by
assigning atom TYPES (which you can *NOT* see in the PDB file), bonds,
angles etc. as part of a TOPOLOGY file.

If you don;t understand this, it's really time to RTFM as they say on the
CCP4 mailing list!

cheers

Daan

On Fri, 30 May 2003, Regina R. Monaco, Ph.D. wrote:

> HI Daan-
>
> 	Thanks for your interest with my problem. I can get a working output
> .pdb file from PRODRG2, and run it through GROMACS. The simulation will
> run. The problem is that it looks as if the atom types are incorrect,
> and none of the residues are labeled as such (ie, the entire molecule,
> which is a hexapeptide, is considered in the .pdb file as a single
> residue designated as "DRG", instead of each residue being identified
> as belonging to a "PRO" (i.e., proline), "PHE" or whichever residue it
> actually is. I am most concerned about the atom types, and also about
> being able to identify which atoms belong to which residues by looking
> at the .pdb file itself (for editing and other purposes).
>
> Heres the output PRODRG2 gave me as a pdb for my molecule:
>
> REMARK
> REMARK
> REMARK  This file was generated by PRODRG version 030513.0284
> REMARK  PRODRG written/copyrighted by Daan van Aalten
> REMARK
> REMARK  Questions/comments to dava at davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
> REMARK
> REMARK  When using this software in a publication, cite:
> REMARK  D.M.F. van Aalten, R. Bywater, J.B.C. Findlay,
> REMARK  M. Hendlich, R.W.W. Hooft and G. Vriend,
> REMARK  PRODRG, a program for generating molecular topologies
> REMARK  and unique molecular descriptors from coordinates
> REMARK  of small molecules.
> REMARK  Journal of Computer Aided Molecular Design (1996), 10, 255-262.
> REMARK
> REMARK
> HETATM    1  N2  DRG     1       3.190 -11.050 -14.770  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM    2  C5  DRG     1       1.840 -11.620 -14.710  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    3  C4  DRG     1       1.890 -13.080 -14.260  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    4  C3  DRG     1       0.460 -13.600 -14.170  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    5  C2  DRG     1       0.330 -15.060 -13.690  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    6  C1  DRG     1      -1.130 -15.510 -13.450  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    7  N1  DRG     1      -1.690 -15.010 -12.180  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM    8  C6  DRG     1      -2.140 -15.280 -14.590  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM    9  O1  DRG     1      -3.330 -15.280 -14.280  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   10  N3  DRG     1      -1.710 -15.100 -15.840  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM   11  C7  DRG     1      -2.580 -14.610 -16.930  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   12  C8  DRG     1      -1.790 -14.630 -18.250  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   13  C9  DRG     1      -2.550 -14.020 -19.430  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   14  C10 DRG     1      -2.130 -12.760 -19.920  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   15  C11 DRG     1      -2.830 -12.170 -21.000  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   16  C12 DRG     1      -3.940 -12.850 -21.560  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   17  C13 DRG     1      -4.350 -14.110 -21.070  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   18  C14 DRG     1      -3.650 -14.700 -20.000  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   19  C15 DRG     1      -3.120 -13.200 -16.630  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   20  O2  DRG     1      -2.380 -12.320 -16.180  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   21  N4  DRG     1      -4.400 -13.040 -16.920  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM   22  C16 DRG     1      -5.140 -11.770 -16.770  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   23  C17 DRG     1      -6.480 -12.070 -16.090  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   24  C18 DRG     1      -7.280 -10.810 -15.740  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   25  C19 DRG     1      -7.030 -10.140 -14.520  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   26  C20 DRG     1      -7.770  -8.980 -14.190  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   27  C21 DRG     1      -8.750  -8.510 -15.090  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   28  C22 DRG     1      -9.010  -9.180 -16.310  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   29  C23 DRG     1      -8.270 -10.340 -16.630  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   30  C24 DRG     1      -5.330 -11.100 -18.140  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   31  O3  DRG     1      -6.110 -11.620 -18.940  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   32  N5  DRG     1      -4.650  -9.990 -18.500  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM   33  C28 DRG     1      -5.010  -9.160 -19.670  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   34  C27 DRG     1      -4.360  -7.820 -19.340  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   35  C26 DRG     1      -3.020  -8.360 -18.860  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   36  C25 DRG     1      -3.450  -9.420 -17.830  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   37  C29 DRG     1      -3.750  -8.750 -16.470  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   38  O4  DRG     1      -4.890  -8.380 -16.220  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   39  N6  DRG     1      -2.780  -8.580 -15.540  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM   40  C33 DRG     1      -1.340  -8.870 -15.730  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   41  C32 DRG     1      -0.700  -8.620 -14.360  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   42  C31 DRG     1      -1.610  -7.510 -13.820  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   43  C30 DRG     1      -3.010  -8.000 -14.200  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   44  C34 DRG     1      -3.630  -9.020 -13.210  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   45  O5  DRG     1      -4.710  -8.760 -12.690  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   46  N7  DRG     1      -2.940 -10.140 -12.960  1.00 20.00
>         N
> HETATM   47  C35 DRG     1      -3.410 -11.260 -12.130  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   48  C39 DRG     1      -2.170 -12.000 -11.620  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   49  O7  DRG     1      -2.260 -12.620 -10.540  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   50  O8  DRG     1      -1.130 -11.970 -12.320  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   51  C36 DRG     1      -4.200 -12.210 -13.040  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   52  C37 DRG     1      -4.970 -13.320 -12.310  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   53  C38 DRG     1      -6.220 -12.800 -11.590  1.00 20.00
>         C
> HETATM   54  O6  DRG     1      -7.330 -12.870 -12.080  1.00 20.00
>         O
> HETATM   55  N8  DRG     1      -6.040 -12.280 -10.390  1.00 20.00
>         N
> END
>
> If you have any suggestion - I would be extremely grateful!! You have
> already been very helpful.
>
> Thanks again,
> Regina
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 01:04 PM, Daan van Aalten wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Regina
> >
> > I really don;t understand what the problem is. If you follow eactly the
> > PDF file on GROMACS-ligand simulations from the PRODRG FAQ these
> > problems
> > don;t exist. be sure to take the PRODRG output PDB file **NOT** the
> > PDB file you put in, when you set up your system with pdb2gmx
> >
> > No need whatsoever at any stage to do editing by hand
> >
> > Daan
> >
> > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Regina R. Monaco, Ph.D. wrote:
> >
> >> 	You are correct - the problem lies with the "UNK" residues. I
> >> hand-edited the residue names and GROMACS atom types into the .pdb
> >> obtained from PRODRG2 and pdb2gmx ran ok.
> >>
> >> 	I am starting this calculation with a .mol file, which does not have
> >> any residue information - just coordinates. I am not really fond of
> >> the
> >> idea of hand-editing these peptide files as a working solution, so
> >> does
> >> anyone know of a way I can take a .mol file and have some GROMACS or
> >> some other software recognize, or allow me to graphically edit, the
> >> residues and atom types?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Regina
> >>
> >>
> >>     8. Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] D-form amino acids (Christoph
> >> Freudenberger)
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:54:41 +0200
> >> From: Christoph Freudenberger
> >> <christoph.freudenberger at chemie.uni-ulm.de>
> >> Organization: University of Ulm
> >> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] D-form amino acids
> >> Reply-To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> >>
> >> Regina R. Monaco, Ph.D. wrote:
> >>> Hi Daan-
> >>>
> >>>     Well, **I** am not worried, but GROMACS won't accept the
> >>> calculation.  I am assuming the reason is that the program is not
> >>> certain what the  atom types are, what charges to use, and how to
> >>> index
> >>> the molecule. At  least, thats what the error messages indicate  :>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sound more like somethings wrong with the topology rather then
> >> the 'UNK' residues.
> >> Please post the error message and a few lines of the coordinate file.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> --
> >> Christoph Freudenberger
> >> Abt. Organische Chemie I AK Siehl - Uni Ulm -Tel: ++49-731-502-2785
> >>
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> >
> >
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> >
> > Dr. Daan van Aalten                    Wellcome Trust CDA Fellow
> > Wellcome Trust Biocentre, Dow Street   TEL: ++ 44 1382 344979
> > Div. of Biol.Chem. & Mol.Microbiology  FAX: ++ 44 1382 345764
> > School of Life Sciences                E-mail:
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> > Univ. of Dundee, Dundee DD1 5EH, UK    WWW:
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> >
> >         O     C           O     C         Visit the PRODRG server to
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Dr. Daan van Aalten                    Wellcome Trust CDA Fellow
Wellcome Trust Biocentre, Dow Street   TEL: ++ 44 1382 344979
Div. of Biol.Chem. & Mol.Microbiology  FAX: ++ 44 1382 345764
School of Life Sciences                E-mail: dava at davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
Univ. of Dundee, Dundee DD1 5EH, UK    WWW: http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk

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