[gmx-users] NPT: pressure coupling

David spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Mon Mar 7 21:45:24 CET 2005


On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 12:36 -0800, Nancy Deng wrote:
> Thanks David for your response. But I'm still confusing. Are you suggesting
> me to increase the box size where more h2o will be included  in order to get
> less pressure fluctuation.
No, I'm just saying it's fine.
> 
> Or, is there any other option to specify the NPT ensemble simulation???
No. You can have different parameters. Longer coupling time is fine for
long simulations. Will have slightly large fluctuations, but same
average.

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> nancy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David" <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
> To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] NPT: pressure coupling
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 09:54 -0800, Nancy Deng wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > After my system equilibrated, I have performed 2ns production phase md
> > simulation. I am expecting my calulation is in the NPT ensemble. From
> > the g_energy analysis, temperature is well consistent around 300K, but
> > the pressure is fluctuating significantly from -340 bar 300 bar.
> this is perfectly normal. increasing the number of atoms by a factor of
> four will reduce the fluctuations by a factor of two.
> 
> >
> > The parameter setup in the .mdp file is as following:
> >
> > *******
> > Pcoupl              =  berendsen
> > pcoupltype          =  isotropic
> > tau_p               =  1
> > compressibility     =  4.5e-5
> > ref_p               =  1
> > ********
> >
> > Could anyone please let me kwow what's wrong in the file setup???
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > nancy
> >
> >
> >
> >         ----- Original Message ----- 
> >         From: Marc Kreissler
> >         To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> >         Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:11 AM
> >         Subject: Re: [gmx-users] DNA/RNA records for OPLS force
> >         fieldin GROMACS format.
> >
> >
> >         david.evans at ulsop.ac.uk a écrit:
> >         > Hi,
> >         >
> >         > I think that 60 water molecules is far too few. One would
> typically
> >         > add a few thousand in a box extending about 10 angstroms from
> >         > the solute.
> >         >
> >         > If it's not too heretical for this list, might I suggest looking
> >         > at the DNA tutorial on the Amber web site? This, and the
> >         > cited references, give a good idea of what people do in the
> >         > successful DNA simulations to date.
> >         >
> >         > good luck,
> >         >
> >         > Dave
> >         > -
> >         >
> >         > > after some work  and  many "try and error"  i have succeeded
> to
> >         > > build  the various files which are necessary for running
> Gromacs
> >         > > calculations  on a DNA_decamer with  about 60  water
> molecules,
> >         > > 2  Ca++ ions  and  15  Na+  ions  to neutralise  the excess
> negative
> >         > > charges  due to phosphate groups.
> >         > >
> >         > > i get  a surprising result  after 1ns  of simulation  ( about
> 3hours
> >         > >
> >         >  on a Linux_PC) :
> >         >
> >         > > the double-helix  ends up in a dissociated  state.
> >         > >
> >         > > for this calculation i use   - a triclinic  box
> >         > >                                        -  pme  for
> electrostatics
> >         > >                                        -  T_coupling  at 300K
> >         > >                                        -   no  P_coupling
> >         > >                                        -   oplsaar  force
> field
> >         > >
> >         > > my experience  in  MD_simulations  is  not  tremendous,
> especially
> >         > > concerning  the simulation parameters.
> >         > >
> >         > > - i am wondering  if  i have  choosen the right  box  form  ?
> >         > > - what about  the box dimensions ?
> >         > > - may be the number of water molecules  is too small for this
> system
> >         > >
> >         > ?
> >         >
> >         > > - and last  but not least  i don't know if the periodic
> boundary
> >         > >
> >         > conditions
> >         >
> >         > > are on or off ?
> >         > >
> >         > > a lot of questions.
> >         > >
> >         > > i would  appreciate your  helpfull  advices.
> >         > >
> >         > > merci ,  cordialement
> >         > >
> >         > > marc kreissler
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
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> >         >
> >         bonsoir david evans,
> >
> >         thank's for the usefull hint to have a look at the "DNA
> >         tutorial"
> >         located on the Amber website. "keep on learning,
> >         learning,..." ( a quote from vladimir
> >         illitch lenin).
> >
> >         cordialement,
> >         marc kreissler
> >
> >
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