[gmx-users] Re: Re:double precision minimization with version 3.3

Yechun Xu yechun.xu at weizmann.ac.il
Tue Mar 21 18:11:19 CET 2006


Dear gmx users,

   First, I'd like to thank David's suggestion. It is not a bug of the program but a problem of installation. Now it is fixed and works fine.

   I met another problem about the double precision minimization (used for NMA later) with l-bfgs in version 3.3. It seems the optimization will never finish. The protein only includes 604 atoms (in vacuum) and the optimization started almost three weeks ago but only reach something like:
"Step 29403607, Epot=-3.927499e+03, Fnorm=2.169e-01, Fmax=1.699e+00 (atom 451)"

So my question is that the l-bfgs optimization does take very long time or there is some problem with my mdps file? Any suggestions are very appreciated!
 
cpp                 =  /lib/cpp
define              =  -DFLEXIBLE 
constraints         =  none 
integrator          =  l-bfgs
nsteps              = 50000000
;
;	Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol               =  0.000000001
emstep              =  0.000000001

nstlist             =  10
;nstcomm             =  1
ns_type             =  simple
rlist               =  1.6
rcoulomb_switch     =  1.2
rcoulomb            =  1.4
rvdw_switch         =  1.2
rvdw                =  1.4
vdwtype             =  Shift
coulombtype         =  Shift
pbc                 =  no

OR mdp file like this:
cpp                 =  /lib/cpp
define              =  -DFLEXIBLE 
constraints         =  none 
integrator          =  l-bfgs
nsteps              = 50000000
;
;	Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol               =  0.000001
emstep              =  0.000001

nstlist             =  10
nstcomm             =  1
ns_type             =  grid
rlist               =  1.6
rcoulomb            =  1.4
rvdw                =  1.4
vdwtype             =  Shift
coulombtype         =  PME
Tcoupl              =  no
Pcoupl              =  no
gen_vel             =  no
 
 


Best regards
Yechun
 
 Weizmann Institute of Science
 Departement of Structural Biology
 Room 610, Kimmelman Building
 Rehovot 76100 Israel
 Tel: 972-8-9343759  Fax: 972-8-9344159
 Email: yechun.xu at weizmann.ac.il

>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>>    When I submit a optimization (double precision optimization under 
>>> vacuum condition) job to GROMACS 3.3, the error information was shown as 
>>> that listed below. However, with the same structure and parameters, the 
>>> optimization can be done well using GROMACS 3.2.1. Then I submit the 
>>> optimized structure resulted from 3.2.1 to 3.3, but it still does not 
>>>. work and gives out the same error information. It seems such problem can 
>>> not be caused by the program bug because I saw one information on this 
>>> mailing list that someone already optimized his structure at double 
>>> precision with 3.3. So does anyone give me some clue or suggestion for 
>>> my problem? Any suggestion will be very appreciated.
>
>>Compare the 3.2.1 and 3.3 tpr files (using gmxcheck)
>>Do also try to run gromacs 3.3. with the 3.2.1 tpr file
>>If there still is a problem then please submit a bugzilla with your tpr 
>>files.
>
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Yechun
>> 
>> Weizmann Institute of Science
>> Departement of Structural Biology
>> Room 610, Kimmelman Building
>> Rehovot 76100 Israel
>> Tel: 972-8-9343759  Fax: 972-8-9344159
>> Email: yechun.xu at weizmann.ac.il
>> Dear all,
>> 
>>    When I submit a optimization (double precision optimization under 
>> vacuum condition) job to GROMACS 3.3, the error information was shown as 
>> that listed below. However, with the same structure and parameters, the 
>> optimization can be done well using GROMACS 3.2.1. Then I submit the 
>> optimized structure resulted from 3.2.1 to 3.3, but it still does not 
>> work and gives out the same error information. It seems such problem can 
>> not be caused by the program bug because I saw one information on this 
>> mailing list that someone already optimized his structure at double 
>> precision with 3.3. So does anyone give me some clue or suggestion for 
>> my problem? Any suggestion will be very appreciated.
>
>Compare the 3.2.1 and 3.3 tpr files (using gmxcheck)
>Do also try to run gromacs 3.3. with the 3.2.1 tpr file
>If there still is a problem then please submit a bugzilla with your tpr 
>files.
>
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Yechun
>> 
>> Weizmann Institute of Science
>> Departement of Structural Biology
>> Room 610, Kimmelman Building
>> Rehovot 76100 Israel
>> Tel: 972-8-9343759  Fax: 972-8-9344159
>> Email: yechun.xu at weizmann.ac.il
>> 
>> 
>>                 :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
>> 
>>             Gallium Rubidium Oxygen Manganese Argon Carbon Silicon
>> 
>>                             :-)  VERSION 3.3  (-:
>> 
>> 
>>      Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
>>       Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
>>             Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
>>            check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.
>> 
>>         This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>>          modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
>>         as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
>>             of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>> 
>>                      :-)  mdrun_d (double precision)  (-:
>> 
>> Option     Filename  Type         Description
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>  -s        em1.tpr  Input        Generic run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
>>  -o        em1.trr  Output       Full precision trajectory: trr trj
>>  -x       traj.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr 
>> format)
>>  -c  after_em1.gro  Output       Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml
>>  -e        em1.edr  Output       Generic energy: edr ene
>>  -g        em1.log  Output       Log file
>> -dgdl      dgdl.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -field    field.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -table    table.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -tablep  tablep.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
>> -rerun    rerun.xtc  Input, Opt.  Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro 
>> g96 pdb
>> -tpi        tpi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -ei        sam.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
>> -eo        sam.edo  Output, Opt. ED sampling output
>>  -j       wham.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
>> -jo        bam.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
>> -ffout      gct.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -devout   deviatie.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -runav  runaver.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
>> -pi       pull.ppa  Input, Opt.  Pull parameters
>> -po    pullout.ppa  Output, Opt. Pull parameters
>> -pd       pull.pdo  Output, Opt. Pull data output
>> -pn       pull.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
>> -mtx         nm.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
>> -dn     dipole.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
>> 
>>      Option   Type  Value  Description
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>      -[no]h   bool     no  Print help info and quit
>>      -[no]X   bool     no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line options
>>       -nice    int      0  Set the nicelevel
>>     -deffnm string         Set the default filename for all file options
>>   -[no]xvgr   bool    yes  Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
>>                            xvg files for the xmgrace program
>>         -np    int      1  Number of nodes, must be the same as used for
>>                            grompp
>>         -nt    int      1  Number of threads to start on each node
>>      -[no]v   bool    yes  Be loud and noisy
>> -[no]compact   bool    yes  Write a compact log file
>> -[no]sepdvdl   bool     no  Write separate V and dVdl terms for each
>>                            interaction type and node to the log file(s)
>>  -[no]multi   bool     no  Do multiple simulations in parallel (only with
>>                            -np > 1)
>>     -replex    int      0  Attempt replica exchange every # steps
>>     -reseed    int     -1  Seed for replica exchange, -1 is generate a seed
>>   -[no]glas   bool     no  Do glass simulation with special long range
>>                            corrections
>> -[no]ionize   bool     no  Do a simulation including the effect of an X-Ray
>>                            bombardment on your system
>> 
>> Getting Loaded...
>> Reading file em1.tpr, VERSION 3.3 (double precision)
>> Loaded with Money
>> 
>> Polak-Ribiere Conjugate Gradients:
>>   Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e-09
>>   Number of steps    =       500000
>>   F-max             =          inf on atom 1
>>   F-Norm            =          inf
>> 
>> Step 0, Epot=         nan, Fnorm=      inf, Fmax=      inf (atom 2)
>> Step 1, Epot=         nan, Fnorm=      nan, Fmax=0.000e+00 (atom 0)
>> 
>> writing lowest energy coordinates.
>> 
>> Polak-Ribiere Conjugate Gradients converged to Fmax < 1e-09 in 1 steps
>> Potential Energy  =                   nan
>> Maximum force     =  0.00000000000000e+00 on atom 0
>> Norm of force     =                   nan
>> 
>> gcq#261: "It's Coming Right For Us !" (South Park)
>> 
>> 
>> mdp file:
>> ;    User spoel (236)
>> ;    Wed Nov  3 17:12:44 1993
>> ;    Input file
>> ;
>> cpp                 =  /lib/cpp
>> define              =  -DFLEXIBLE constraints         =  none 
>> integrator          =  cg   (By the way, I once changed this option into 
>> l-bfgs, but it still does not work)
>> nsteps              = 500000
>> ;
>> ;    Energy minimizing stuff
>> ;
>> emtol               =  0.000000001
>> emstep              =  0.000001
>> nstcgsteep          =  100
>> 
>> pbc                 =  no
>> nstlist             =  0
>> nstcomm             =  1
>> ns_type             =  simple
>> rlist               =  0
>> rcoulomb            =  0
>> rvdw                =  0
>> Tcoupl              =  no
>> Pcoupl              =  no
>> gen_vel             =  no
>> 
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>Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
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