[gmx-users] Urea topology problem

David van der Spoel spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Fri Dec 19 13:33:07 CET 2008


Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
> OK, including a mass colum, as Justin A. Lemkul suggested, worked well. 
> Now grompp does not give errors.
> Why should I not use this model for urea? I have found also another 
> model in the contributions section, for a urea/water box 10M, but why 
> should I trust more in a user contribution than in a *itp included in 
> Gromacs?
It is your responsibility to choose the right force field for the job, 
hence you have to read the literature.

Maybe we should remove those itp file that are not coupled to a 
published force field.


> I don´t have much experience with Gromacs, so any coment will be wellcome.
> Thank you very much for your help and suggestions.
> Best wishes,
>  
> Rebeca García
> Parc Cientific de Barcelona
> regafan at hotmail.com <mailto:regafan at hotmail.com>
> 
>  > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:50:03 +0100
>  > From: spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
>  > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
>  > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Urea topology problem
>  >
>  > Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
>  > > Hello,
>  > > I don´t understand the correction I should do from itp.
>  > > I have removed from the urea original urea.itp these lines,
>  >
>  > don't use this model. do a proper literature search.
>  >
>  > >
>  > > #ifdef Boek
>  > > 1 C 1 UREA C1 1 0.38
>  > > 2 O 1 UREA O2 1 -0.38
>  > > 3 NT 1 UREA N3 2 -0.83
>  > > 4 H 1 UREA H4 2 0.415
>  > > 5 H 1 UREA H5 2 0.415
>  > > 6 NT 1 UREA N6 3 -0.83
>  > > 7 H 1 UREA H7 3 0.415
>  > > 8 H 1 UREA H8 3 0.415
>  > > #else
>  > > #endif[ moleculetype ]
>  > >
>  > > so now, my urea.itp file is:
>  > >
>  > > ; name nrexcl
>  > > Urea 3
>  > > [ atoms ]
>  > > ; nr type resnr residu atom cgnr charge
>  > > 1 C 1 UREA C1 1 0.683
>  > > 2 O 1 UREA O2 1 -0.683
>  > > 3 NT 1 UREA N3 2 -0.622
>  > > 4 H 1 UREA H4 2 0.346
>  > > 5 H 1 UREA H5 2 0.276
>  > > 6 NT 1 UREA N6 3 -0.622
>  > > 7 H 1 UREA H7 3 0.346
>  > > 8 H 1 UREA H8 3 0.276
>  > > [ bonds ]
>  > > ; ai aj funct b0 kb
>  > > 3 4 1 1.000000e-01 3.744680e+05
>  > > 3 5 1 1.000000e-01 3.744680e+05
>  > > 6 7 1 1.000000e-01 3.744680e+05
>  > > 6 8 1 1.000000e-01 3.744680e+05
>  > > 1 2 1 1.230000e-01 5.020800e+05
>  > > 1 3 1 1.330000e-01 3.765600e+05
>  > > 1 6 1 1.330000e-01 3.765600e+05
>  > > [ pairs ]
>  > > ; ai aj funct c6 c12
>  > > 2 4 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 2 5 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 2 7 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 2 8 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 3 7 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 3 8 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 4 6 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > 5 6 1 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>  > > [ angles ]
>  > > ; ai aj ak funct th0 cth
>  > > 1 3 4 1 1.200000e+02 2.928800e+02
>  > > 1 3 5 1 1.200000e+02 2.928800e+022 1 6 1 1.215000e+02 5.020800e+02
>  > > 3 1 6 1 1.170000e+02 5.020800e+02
>  > > [ dihedrals ]
>  > > ; ai aj ak al funct phi cp mult
>  > > 2 1 3 4 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 6 1 3 4 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 2 1 3 5 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 6 1 3 5 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 2 1 6 7 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 3 1 6 7 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 2 1 6 8 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > 3 1 6 8 1 1.800000e+02 3.347200e+01 2.000000e+00
>  > > [ dihedrals ]
>  > > ; ai aj ak al funct q0 cq
>  > > 3 4 5 1 2 0.000000e+00 1.673600e+02
>  > > 6 7 8 1 2 0.000000e+00 1.673600e+02
>  > > 1 3 6 2 2 0.000000e+00 1.673600e+02
>  > >
>  > > 4 3 5 1 1.200000e+02 3.347200e+02
>  > > 1 6 7 1 1.200000e+02 2.928800e+02
>  > > 1 6 8 1 1.200000e+02 2.928800e+02
>  > > 7 6 8 1 1.200000e+02 3.347200e+02
>  > > 2 1 3 1 1.215000e+02 5.020800e+02
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Following Chapter 5 in the manual (page 102), the file described for
>  > > urea.itp is the same as mine. For the topology (page 103)
>  > > #include "ffgmx.itp" is used, but I don´t see any more different.
>  > > With this modification in the urea.itp I get the same error. Any 
> idea of
>  > > what could be the problem?
>  > > Thank you very much for your help,
>  > >
>  > > Rebeca Garcia
>  > > Parc Cientific de Barcelona
>  > > regafan at hotmail.com <mailto:regafan at hotmail.com>
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:21:41 -0500
>  > > > From: jalemkul at vt.edu
>  > > > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
>  > > > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Urea topology problem
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > <snip>
>  > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > ERROR 1 [file solvated.top, line 39]:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > atom C1 (Res UREA-1) has mass 0
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > In urea.itp, no masses are defined. If you correct the format of 
> this
>  > > file (see
>  > > > Chapter 5 of the manual), then this issue should be resolved.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Which force field does this urea.itp correspond to? Where 
> should it
>  > > look
>  > > > > for the atomtypes of urea?
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > The .atp file corresponding to the force field you are using
>  > > (ffG43a2). The
>  > > > atomtypes for urea appear to be generic for use with the Gromos96
>  > > force fields.
>  > > > There are specific atomtypes within ffG53a6 for urea, if you want to
>  > > use the
>  > > > newer force field (check the ffG53a6.rtp file for the urea 
> parameters).
>  > > >
>  > > > -Justin
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Thank you very much for your help,
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Rebeca Garcia
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Parc Cientific de Barcelona
>  > > > >
>  > > > > regafan at hotmail.com
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
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